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#357593 - 12/26/12 03:11 AM
Re: Awesome at last!!!
[Re: Diki]
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Registered: 01/21/10
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Hi Diki, I know I keep mentioning it, but you do keep bringing it up:) The only time Midi cuts in is when you hit an odd guitar inversion of a complex chord (and even then its only on a small handful of little used chord types), if you play the way you do and it bothers you (I like to play like that too, particularly in the first phrase of a song), you simply make sure you know the 'guitarists inversions' and your good to go. If you hit a midi inversion accidentally, its not such a big deal, just pretend your guitarist had one too many on that particular night and don't do it again If you use these chords often you quickly get to know which inversions 'not' to play, in a mix of a full blown style its not noticeable...but as you say, it can be noticeable on some styles (but not all) if your using only strumming guitars on the left (with no other accompaniment) and you hit that certain inversion. It affects only the Live Strumming Guitars - Arpeggios are consistent. I don't know why this is, maybe the acoustic guitarist did not know, or was not able to play every single inversion of every single chord type? Can a guitarist even play every inversion? I don't know. Whatever the reason, only 0.1% of owners will come across this, but there is a solution as mentioned. In real life, I have never heard any other person mention this as an obstacle - except Ian who had a slightly different take on the subject, but that was resolved in the Great Complex Chord Battle right here on SZ. In the MP3 examples Ian asked for samples of, the Midi guitars did not even cut in at all. Anyone reading this who wants to compares Yamaha's handling of those chords against Ketron's can search for it. It must be two years ago?
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#357609 - 12/26/12 08:55 AM
Re: Awesome at last!!!
[Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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In real life, I have never heard any other person mention this as an obstacle - except Ian who had a slightly different take on the subject, but that was resolved in the Great Complex Chord Battle right here on SZ. In the MP3 examples Ian asked for samples of, the Midi guitars did not even cut in at all. Anyone reading this who wants to compares Yamaha's handling of those chords against Ketron's can search for it. It must be two years ago?
My take was that the guitar voicings weren't really correct for some of the complex chords, especially those with bass inversions. Yes, the bass notes were handled by the audio bass guitar track, but sometimes you want to start a verse with just rhythm/arpeggio guitar(s)and sometimes, yes, those chords might be bass inversion, and the examples I heard (and asked for) did not address this issue. Otherwise the Audya sounds very impressive, and I have no other issue with it's great audio styles other than the minor one above. Yamaha's latest Style Player with GE (Guitar Effect) covers these chords very effectively...again, a small issue, but a detail that may matter to some players. Ian
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Yamaha Tyros4, Yamaha MS-60S Powered Monitors(2), Yamaha CS-01, Yamaha TQ-5, Yamaha PSR-S775.
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#357667 - 12/27/12 12:13 AM
Re: Awesome at last!!!
[Re: Diki]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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And trust me, my G70 is no better at getting guitar parts right!
No, but it isn't too shabby, considering the instrument is several years old...one wonders how well Roland would compete if they had made a next generation G-series (or E-series) arranger, using SuperNatural voices and a tweaked style engine. Quite likely, they'd be very competitive, indeed. The drums and bass style tracks were already very good, and right up there with the Audya in most respects, certainly in the "liveness" area. Ian
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Yamaha Tyros4, Yamaha MS-60S Powered Monitors(2), Yamaha CS-01, Yamaha TQ-5, Yamaha PSR-S775.
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