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#355372 - 11/27/12 12:16 PM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: Diki]
Mockie Offline
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Based on what I've heard on that video, I'd go for the Korg.

Very live sounds, not that much of a difference in the RH sounds

IMO.

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#355373 - 11/27/12 01:00 PM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: Mockie]
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Obviously the KORG is the better arranger Kb.... wink

but,what do I know? .. coffee

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#355376 - 11/27/12 02:40 PM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: jp47]
Jose Pereira Offline
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I agree that Korg drums are punchier but right hand sounds Yamaha has the edge.

Could anybody here download only the video´s audio in mp3 or wav? I would like to analize the sound of both keyboards in mono. I think this is the ultimate test for real life playing (live). Yamaha arrangers doesn´t sound good in mono...

Thanks!
Jo

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#355383 - 11/27/12 06:43 PM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: jp47]
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Both these are approximately in the same price range. However, soundwise, I think the Pa600 is essentially having (a past TOTL)Pa2x sound engine and its the S950(and not the S750)which is sonically closer(perhaps even better than) to Yamaha TOTL Tyros3.
Like most have stated earlier, I too feel , 750(or used 910) plus Pa600 would be a great combo.
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#355388 - 11/27/12 07:12 PM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: Jose Pereira]
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Originally Posted By: Jose Pereira


Could anybody here download only the video´s audio in mp3 or wav? I would like to analize the sound of both keyboards in mono. I think this is the ultimate test for real life playing (live). Yamaha arrangers doesn´t sound good in mono...

Thanks!
Jo



PA600 v PSR S750 mp3
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#355401 - 11/27/12 11:55 PM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: Jez]
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Originally Posted By: Jez

Like most have stated earlier, I too feel , 750(or used 910) plus Pa600 would be a great combo.


What I have been saying all along. Having had the PA800 for more than a year now and only using them within the confines of my living room I have opted for the ( budget) purchase of the PSR-750, as I did not see much point of swapping my PA800 for the PA600. Again I would like to say that in my opinion a combination of the PA600 with the PSR750 ( or possibly the PSR 910 used or new) is a killer combination and without a doubt the best bang for the buck. It goes without saying that PA3X and Tyros 4 have more to offer but at what price..............

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#355408 - 11/28/12 01:50 AM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: jp47]
Jose Pereira Offline
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Larry, THANKS A LOT!!
I will analize the audio in my studio and see what happen. Then I´ll right my conclusions here.
Thanks!
Jo

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#355410 - 11/28/12 02:32 AM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: jp47]
Jose Pereira Offline
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Well, first of all, this is only MY opinion, I don´t work for any of these companies.

I listened in mono and used some spectra analizing and found that both keyboards use some sort of "fake" stereo. The sound (samples) could be recorded in stereo but use some extra processing for made it wider. The Yamaha effects are worse in mono, means also fake stereo processing. The korg isn´t so pronounced, just a bit less.
One thing that capture my eye and ear was the overall EQ: Assuming that both keyboards where recorded EQ flat, the yamaha has less power in the mid-highs translating in a sound similar to the "happy face" EQ. As the people increase bass and treble in their consoles the effect increases and that´s probably contributing the weak yamaha sound in PAs (but also fake stereo and weak processors)
I think this explain why Yamaha keyboards sound so great at home: They´re mostly "tuned" for that. Korg synths sound appeal more to pro´s
Conclusion: No keyboard is perfect. Choose what sounds best to you!
Best Regards
Jo Martins

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#355411 - 11/28/12 02:35 AM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: jp47]
Jose Pereira Offline
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Registered: 06/27/02
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Loc: Funchal Portugal
Oh, by the way, THanks again Larry for the MP3 and sorry for my poor english. Believe me, my portuguese is worse!!
Thanks!
Jo

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#355424 - 11/28/12 07:20 AM Re: Pa 600 vs PSR S750 [Re: jp47]
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Jo, you're welcome and thanks for your informative evaluation report

This is assuming both boards were recorded 'equally' with flat EQ, but that parameter always needs adjustment.

I have a PSR-3000 that sounds bland with factory EQ settings(flat), but much more alive after tweaking both the EQ and the drums mixing console/filter/harmonic content...along with adjusting other sounds and styles to taste.

Again, IMO, not much difference in sound with these boards (or price) out of the box. To me it's a matter of the OS and Company support. I never owned a Korg, so I can't comment on the OS or support, but I know Yamaha, and to me, they are #1 in these categories, along with third party support, tools, styles, sounds, etc.
That said, the PA600 looks and sounds interesting, I especially like the touch screen, and drums.

I'm in the market for a new MOTL arranger, and it's nice to have choices at competitive and comparable prices (collusion maybe?)
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