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#355506 - 11/29/12 05:11 AM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Well there certainly no 910 or T4, in fact I haven’t been so bored and depressed with a demo for ages, definitely one of Yamahas worst.
As to the keyboards themselves, I will wait until I hear and play them live (All online demos are notorious for sounding nothing like the real thing) before I make a final judgement, but if they don’t improve considerably on the demo then they are definitely boards to avoid.
NOTE: The above is my personal opinion of the demo, NOT the real instruments which will have to wait until I try them live.
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#355529 - 11/29/12 11:13 AM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Thanks for posting the demo, Larry, and like you, I understand it is not meant to be an "in-depth" video but merely an "overview". I always enjoy Marty's presentations, as he is a consummate pro and also an excellent performer (and was a major part of Tyros/PSR development) and therefore not just another all talk smarty-pants techno-geek.  The boy can PLAY! I must say I am looking forward to getting my demo S950 and comparing it with my own Tyros4. Some great choices this year, from all brands...especially in the mid-range. Ian
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#355674 - 12/01/12 07:14 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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From what I've heard thus far, there's not much doubt in my mind that I'll be purchasing at least one 950 when I return from my voyage to the sunny south. I've been fortunate in that I've been able to hear first had many, many brands and models of arranger keyboards during the trip. Have not had the opportunity to play the 950 myself, but I have heard one for a brief time at a marina restaurant - it sounded incredible. Thanks Larry, Gary 
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#355685 - 12/02/12 04:54 AM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: DonM]
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#355713 - 12/02/12 02:56 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: keybplayer]
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On second thought I think I'll hold off getting the PSR-S950. At least for now anyway. After further examination of the PA600 I think I'll wait until I play the Korg to see if the key action is better than the S950. I already know the Drum kits are better on the PA600. What is also interesting is the PA600 has a larger LCD screen w/ touch control and it's a higher resolution than the Yammie i.e. 800 x 480 vs. Yammie's 320 x 240. The PA600 also has 1/4" inputs whilst the Yammie is a single 1/8" auxiliary in. One thing I've yet to determine is whether the Korg has an Octave up down feature. It doesn't mention whether it has the feature on Korg's website. The S950 of course does have octave up/down buttons. I haven't been able to find any close-up high resolution photos of the PA600 on the net yet. Using Picasa I can zoom in and see that the PA600 does have two sets of buttons on the right side that display "- +" next to them. Why Korg doesn't list it in the specifications suggests it may not have an octave function. But the two sets of two buttons on the right side of the PA600 may suggest otherwise. Although I can't make out what the words above the "- +" buttons say on the right side of the keyboard.  I guess I'll have to wait until the PA600 shows up in stores to find out for sure. Unless somebody here already knows the answer. The PA600 is about a pound lighter than the S950 and it isn't as 'deep' as the S950, suggesting an easier to reach, more convenient layout on the front panel of the PA600. The PA600 also has a larger user memory capacity and I'm guessing the Sequencer also allows greater data allowances while recording songs. The PA600 allows up to 100,000 events but Yamaha doesn't list the song recording event allowances for the S950. Although if past PSR models are any indication then the Korg probably blows the Yammie out of the water in that regard. Perhaps the S950 user manual lists the recording event allowances. Although a person can't download user manuals from Yamaha's website anymore unless they've signed up with Yamaha on their website. How ridiculous is that? They not only want your money they want your personal information as well!  All the best, Mike On second thought I think I'll hold off getting the PSR-S950. At least for now anyway. After further examination of the PA600 I think I'll wait until I play the Korg to see if the key action is better than the S950. I already know the Drum kits are better on the PA600. What is also interesting is the PA600 has a larger LCD screen w/ touch control and it's a higher resolution than the Yammie i.e. 800 x 480 vs. Yammie's 320 x 240. The PA600 also has 1/4" inputs whilst the Yammie is a single 1/8" auxiliary in. One thing I've yet to determine is whether the Korg has an Octave up down feature. It doesn't mention whether it has the feature on Korg's website. The S950 of course does have octave up/down buttons. I haven't been able to find any close-up high resolution photos of the PA600 on the net yet. Using Picasa I can zoom in and see that the PA600 does have two sets of buttons on the right side that display "- +" next to them. Why Korg doesn't list it in the specifications suggests it may not have an octave function. But the two sets of two buttons on the right side of the PA600 may suggest otherwise. Although I can't make out what the words above the "- +" buttons say on the right side of the keyboard. I guess I'll have to wait until the PA600 shows up in stores to find out for sure. Unless somebody here already knows the answer. The PA600 is about a pound lighter than the S950 and it isn't as 'deep' as the S950, suggesting an easier to reach, more convenient layout on the front panel of the PA600. The PA600 also has a larger user memory capacity and I'm guessing the Sequencer also allows greater data allowances while recording songs. The PA600 allows up to 100,000 events but Yamaha doesn't list the song recording event allowances for the S950. Although if past PSR models are any indication then the Korg probably blows the Yammie out of the water in that regard. Perhaps the S950 user manual lists the recording event allowances. Although a person can't download user manuals from Yamaha's website anymore unless they've signed up with Yamaha on their website. How ridiculous is that? They not only want your money they want your personal information as well! All the best, Mike Go to korg Pa site,open pa600 quick start/ref manual , look at the diagram. Octave buttons are next to transpose ones.It's on page 9.
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#355715 - 12/02/12 03:59 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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My learned coleague, DonM, hit the nail on the head. I have an enormous amount of time invested in my Yamaha keyboards, and I have thousands upon thousands of custom, tweaked, stle files that really do a fantastic job. They sound great, and they're tailor made for the songs I perform. Now, I have NOT heard the PA-600, but did play several earlier models. They were OK at best, IMO. I'm sure that in the hands of a seasoned veteran Korg player they would sound much better. Today, I performed at an art festival, just a 3-hour performance, outdoors, but in the shade of a Tiki Bar. I used the PSR-3000, kept the crowd the entire time, had a ball, booked a couple jobs, made some tip money, and was back aboard the boat by 4 p.m.. Life is good down here in the Florida Keys, but the payscale sucks. The side benefits, though, made up for the low pay. I got flashed by young gals at least 4 times while performing Hot Hot Hot. I love my job. Cheers, Gary
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#355720 - 12/02/12 05:56 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Most of the gals flshing in this part of the world are in their 20s and 30s. It's a fairly commonplace thing here, and after a while there's no longer a shock effect - at least not for me. I guess if I were a lot younger it might be different. The ladies all had lots to drink, but I think they were just having fun with an old man who kept them entertained. Here's the sunsets we see here every night - awesome!  Cheers, Gary
Edited by travlin'easy (12/02/12 05:57 PM)
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#355757 - 12/03/12 09:24 AM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
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Thanks jamman. I think Korg should list it in the specifications on their website since the PA 600 is 61 keys where the Octave - + function is especially important. Yammie thinks it is important enough to advise potential customers that the S950 has the feature. By the way, if Korg was really smart they would have introduced the PA600 before the holidays. Most people are low on cash after spending beaucoup amounts of money on Christmas gifts. According to what I've been able to determine the PA600 won't be available until after the 1st of January. Although I'd rather have a fully baked product than a half-baked one when it hits the market. Timing is everything and I think Korg dropped the ball unfortunately. Hopefully the extra wait will be worth it.  All the best, Mike PS: Sounds like Gary has been sipping too many margaritas down there in the Florida Keys. You wouldn't be pulling our leg now would you Gary? I have a hard time imagining young women flashing an older gentleman. People get to drinking too much and they can start seeing things that aren't there. I'm not saying that's the case but young women don't flash grandpas. They shouldn't flash anyone for that matter. Sometimes dreams can carry over into consciousness. Maybe you dreamed it? Or then again, maybe too many margaritas? By the way, I've heard the Florida Keys are really amazing. Fishing down there is some of the best in the world from what I understand. Pardon me if I'm stepping on anyone's toes. This thread is treading on things that shouldn't be discussed on an arranger keyboard forum in my opinion. Gary, please keep those intimate escapades of young women out of the S950 threads if you don't mind. By the way, I'm glad you were able to gig down there while you're on vacation. A little extra money on the side will help pay for your trip. A win/win situation. Hopefully you were also able to do a little fishing as well.
Edited by keybplayer (12/03/12 09:26 AM)
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#355758 - 12/03/12 09:49 AM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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No illusions with the flashers - it's a complace occurance here, not that it's a bad thing. I believe grampas get flashed because the ladies know we're pretty much harmless. The fishing here is beyond belief, and that's what's on my plate for tomorrow if the weather cooperates. Back to the S950. I'm relatively confident that one will be purchased shortly after my return to the frozen north in April. From all the demos, plus talking with some 950 owners and performers, to me at least, it sounds like a fantastic keyboard and would be a big upgrade from my old PSR-3000s. Gary
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#355774 - 12/03/12 02:33 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Diki, I tend to agree with you. I got to play a PA300 a few weeks ago, I liked much of the overall sounds, but there didn't seem to be the variety of styles that I found with Yamaha and Roland keyboards. Granted, I only played it for an hour, but I thought the piano sounded somewhat thin, and I was not enamored with the guitar sounds. Maybe it's just me, but I really like Yamaha's individual instrument voices better than most keyboards I've had the opportunity to play and hear during this trip. Now, I have been told that the PA600 grand piano sounds great, but again, I haven't had the opportunity to hear it up close and personal. I use a lot of guitar, sax, fiddle, strings and yes, even the grand piano voices, all of which I consider essential to my performances. Cheers, Gary
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#355795 - 12/03/12 08:02 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: Dnj]
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I use at least 150 user (custom) styles, all of which make each song unique. Sure, I know some guys use a dozen styles and they all say that's all you need, but that's where we disagree. I want every song I perform to sound as close to the original as possible, and I sincerely believe my audiences do as well. So the question of "how many styles to you need" is a bit subjective at best. If you can keep your audiences happy and the dance-floor packed with a dozen or so styles - more power to you. For me, the number of styles I need is endless. Yesterday's job was a good example. Lots of folks at the Tiki Bar, all of whom didn't want me to stop playing and singing. When I played the intro of the songs, the response was instantaneous. Same held true when I used a custom, third-party style file that had the pre-programed intro. Many of the onboard styles also have a generic intro that fits a number of songs, which often provides the audience with instant recognition, plus there's often a positive response with folks getting out of their seats and onto the dance-floor. Food for thought. One of the lovely ladies that sailed with me for a week on the way south took this photo yesterday of an old man at the keyboard.  God, I love this job, Gary
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#355840 - 12/04/12 04:24 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Most all my songs are my own versions, and I rarely, if ever, use an intro, or any ending except the short one. I just play the intro usually using variation 1.
However there are certain songs that have signature intros and riffs and if you can't play them, using the intro would be necessary. One song that comes to mind is Sweet Home Alabama. Hit that intro/lick and the place explodes! Maybe you have to be down South though! And, you can use a generic style for that song, but it's hard to keep playing that riff over and over while singing, so I use a style that was made from a midi file when I do it.
Without a doubt there are other songs that are like this, where you really need to either play or the signature riff or have it in the style/midi file to sell it. . . Pretty Woman, Grapevine, Amarillo By Morning, Suspicious Minds, Wonderful Tonight, New York, etc.
DonM
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#355844 - 12/04/12 06:12 PM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Over the past decade I've accumulated more than 44,000 third party styles for Yamaha. Some are just plain awful, some are pretty good, and a bunch of them are fantastic. The latter category is what I use for my audiences - it's what they want, and I get paid to provide the music they want to hear. I've shared many of those styles with many, many members of this and other forums, and most will tell you those styles are second to none. Cheers, Gary
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#355869 - 12/05/12 03:19 AM
Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video
[Re: lahawk]
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Loc: Oradea, RO
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For me, the onboard styles provided with the keyboard are more than enough... if you spend some time to tweak and change some things in them, add, take away, re-voice and so on. I know many users prefer to use something existent already - why waste time creating something new? - but for many other users that's the whole point: to create or re-create something of their own and use it in their performances. Me, being a minimalist in aproach, I think we're trapped quite often in Acquisition Syndrome... Styles, sounds, vsts, vstis, DAWs, gear... In fact, today's equipment, even in the basic form is most of the times enough - just the personal abilities must become better. 44.000 tousands styles?!?!?! I understand the wish of getting all that is available (?!) but in real, do we ever use more than 200-300? Blessings, Adi
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