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#355776 - 12/03/12 01:46 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
the age old Korg Achilles Heel... nowhere near as large a pool of factory and high quality user styles available.


I wonder why?
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#355785 - 12/03/12 04:23 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: lahawk]
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Probably because Korg's largest markets by far are balkan, middle eastern, and oriental, therefore 'western' styles have little use in those markets and so third party, western styles are nowhere near what's available for Yamaha.

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#355787 - 12/03/12 04:43 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: lahawk]
Dnj Offline
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Honestly how many styles do yo really need?

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#355790 - 12/03/12 05:29 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: lahawk]
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Exactly, Donny. I think I have about four or five 'imported' converted Yamaha styles and, to be honest, I never use them - may as well dump 'em, in fact. I've got all I need in the Pa1X.

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#355791 - 12/03/12 05:54 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: lahawk]
Dnj Offline
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I use maybe 25, to 30 styles at most ...to cover about any song I need to.

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#355795 - 12/03/12 07:02 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: Dnj]
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I use at least 150 user (custom) styles, all of which make each song unique. Sure, I know some guys use a dozen styles and they all say that's all you need, but that's where we disagree. I want every song I perform to sound as close to the original as possible, and I sincerely believe my audiences do as well. So the question of "how many styles to you need" is a bit subjective at best. If you can keep your audiences happy and the dance-floor packed with a dozen or so styles - more power to you. For me, the number of styles I need is endless.

Yesterday's job was a good example. Lots of folks at the Tiki Bar, all of whom didn't want me to stop playing and singing. When I played the intro of the songs, the response was instantaneous. Same held true when I used a custom, third-party style file that had the pre-programed intro. Many of the onboard styles also have a generic intro that fits a number of songs, which often provides the audience with instant recognition, plus there's often a positive response with folks getting out of their seats and onto the dance-floor. Food for thought.

One of the lovely ladies that sailed with me for a week on the way south took this photo yesterday of an old man at the keyboard.



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#355796 - 12/03/12 07:23 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: travlin'easy]
Dnj Offline
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Gary great looking fan at your feet! wink

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#355798 - 12/03/12 07:41 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: lahawk]
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You should know - that was one of the best things you introduced me to. It's great - even outdoors.

Gary cool
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#355799 - 12/03/12 07:58 PM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: travlin'easy]
Dnj Offline
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
You should know - that was one of the best things you introduced me to. It's great - even outdoors.

Gary cool



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#355817 - 12/04/12 08:59 AM Re: Martin Harris PSR S-950 / S-750 Video [Re: lahawk]
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If you played in a real band, you would never use the same intro twice. You would never play two songs with the exact same groove. If you only use 25 styles or so, you are using them at LEAST twice or three times (or more) each night.

Whether you are going for 'just like the record' or whether you are going for your OWN version of a tune, you are short-changing your audience to recycle the same style over and over just because it's convenient (or you can't find another style that works).

But that's just me...
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