Thanks guys.

And, for all the wussies that don't like lugging the 45 lb.(without a road case) G-70 around , maybe Roland can keep the weight down by using the E-60's case, and maybe it's not quite as good (as G-70), but still great feeling 76-note keybed(both of which are R&D paid for).

It's probably not going to happen, but just think; car makers do this stuff (raid the parts bin) all the time, so why can't Roland?

Ian

If you read back on the latest keyboard festival report I did, you will find the dealer explained what had happened to the G90, (The replacement for the G70/E80) it had been shelved due to the economic climate and all the R & D work that had been done was incorporated into BK7m.

At the present time Roland main keyboard performance enhances are with Workstations, Pianos & Ateliers (From memory the first to get Super Natural Technology 2 or 3 years ago)

Bill

I think in the BK5, the samples are cutted down to 22500HZ
That's why the sound is not so good

I think the styles sound really good on the BK-5...it's the right hand voices that are a let down.

It would probably work very well for those who use SMF and do the keyboard karaoke trip, but, for a player who does lots of right hand work, it will be just around average...not stellar, but certainly adequate.

Ian

I personally think the BK-7m is almost the perfect companion to a decent modern WS...

Do the arranging stuff on the BK, then add in the WS loops and stuff, then pick and choose the RH voices for which are the strongest (trust me, SOME of the BK-s RH voices hold their own against anything!).... Nirvana!

And yes, I know, I know! The G70 was one of the heaviest arrangers ever made. But it was outweighed by even the 61 note E80, and most of the Abacus's, and only trails some of the Korg 76'ers by a few pounds. As I have said so many times, you pick an instrument by how it SOUNDS (your audience is never going to lift it!) and then you live with whatever drawbacks it has. Heaven guard me from the day I make a MUSICAL decision based on WEIGHT!

The only reason I haven't moved on is that no-one has YET made something better, for how I use a keyboard. I am not nostalgic, I am not a weight-lifter! When a better alternative exists (better MUSICALLY, not lighter!), I'll be moving on, and have only the odd regret (like I had for the G1000, which supported me and mine for 10 years or so).

Until then...

"Heaven guard me from the day I make a MUSICAL decision based on WEIGHT!"

Oh, just wait, my young friend. The time will come sooner than you think!

DonM

It's still hard to think that, at 56, I'm a 'young friend'!

But I already have my Yamaha KX-5 strap-on keyboard and the BK-7m ready for the day my hernia arrives!

Yep...it's not far off...my days of lugging anything over 35 lbs are long over...thankfully I have an arranger that does everything I need and is just a shade over 30 lbs. My speakers weigh 25 lbs. each.

It wasn't the setting up that was the killer...it was taking it apart and lugging it out to the car, or on to the dolly, after a long night's playing.

I think the worst were the Electone organs...I had a special model that folded up, but it was still a monster. It was a modified Electone C-605 called the C-605p, the "p" for "portable"...ha ha, that was hardly what it was but at least it broke down to something relatively manageable.






I sure won't miss that at all.

Didn't you lug around an Electone, Don? What model was it?

Ian

Diki,

At this point you are still considered among the forum's youngsters. Keep in mind that there are lots of really old farts, such as myself, on this forum. As my learned colleague said "Your day will come." and it will happen much sooner than you would like to believe. Hell, when I was your age I was still gettin'...... Damned, I forgot what it was again.

Cheers,

Gary

Heaven guard me from the day I make a MUSICAL decision based on WEIGHT!

Funny you shoiuld say that. I'm moving from my trusty G1000 because of weight and I'm just tired of the sounds, as good as they are. The audience isn't but I am. Same with a PA. Sold a mint Yamaha powered mixer and replaced it with the new Carvin XP800. Can't believe hiow small and light it is and it really kicks at 125 watts per side 8 ohms.. Speakers--I just made a choice betweem Peavey Impulse 100s at 28 lbs each to Peavey PR10 Neos at 20 lbs. I had the Impulses a few years back and they really put out some sound , sorry I sold them so the temtation to rebuy is there but weight made the decisionvto go for the NEO's. I still have my larger setup but will use it less often now. BTW grab those NEO magnet speakers now as they will be dissapearing soon, no more magnet material.
You too will make these choices in the future. Used to move a B3/pedals/leslie/Rhodes/Ampeg amps and everything else and thought I'd be doing that forever. HA!!!

Bill in NJ