I just don't hear this LIVE sound from the drum sets reg or audio on Yamaha Arrangers, or bass for that matter.....
for example at 7:30 in this demo the drums are smokin' ... and this goes for ballads, or any genre etc, also, hopefully Tyros 5 if ever produced will make me a believer again.

what i hear is not a LIVE drum sound
what i hear is a nice performance with a VERY Electronic & Compressed drum sound
which is GREAT for Dance stuff

i prefer my Audya's LIVE drums anyday, but that's just me...

I agree. The 800 drums always sounded terrific and this demo sounds as Leezone said. Maybe it's the way the sound is coming through to us - I know Korg is better than this.

Hey Donny, when did you switch to playing Middle Eastern styles? I agree with Leezone - the drums sound somewhat robotic and harsh to me. I hear live drums a lot down here, and they're nothing like that demo.

Good Luck,

Gary

zuki, gary

i'm glad we agree to agree

Well I have a PA3X and I agree. However, there are wonderful live drums in it. The drums here sounded not as good as Yamaha!
Maybe DNJ linked to the wrong song??
DonM

I'd have to go with the drum sounds are seriously lacking in the PA3x (though I managed to EQ some of them for a better sound). Then again I think they're lacking in all recent arranger keyboards, except, the Audya, of course.

I think it's the same as "food." We've been eating processed/packaged food so long we forgot what real food tasted like. I still have my old Yamaha RX7 analog drum machine. If I remember it correctly, that sound more like a real drum kit than today's machines.

Does anyone have any ideas about improving the drum sounds? I went through all the drum kits. They all sound thin, limp and synthetic (and maybe even pathetic?). Or......has anyone played their PA3x on a real industrial strength amp? Maybe a bass amp? Are the drum sounds any thicker? I'm using EV's which are known more for clarity, and not "punch" so I haven't tried it myself.

So, again......anyone have any ideas for improving the drum sounds?

BTW, to it's benefit, I think the trumpets are incredibly authentic sounding when used with pitch bend, vibrato, etc

I remember the RX7. I also liked the Alesis SR-16 that was made for many years. Even the Roland TR707 I remember very fondly. There is something about those drum machines that date back quarter of a century ... how amazing.

I'm hearing, once again, the Master Compressor settings being used over-aggressively. I cannot emphasize enough how, if you want your drums to sound as live as possible, DON'T use the Master Compressor. Even the best of arranger drums are, by their very nature, incapable of the TRUE dynamic range that a real drummer plays at. Why you would want to restrict it any further is beyond me...