how should be created the wavs from user audio drums, with markers? I have seen that the ones created by ketron have markers

If you know, how to make Drums programming in your DAW (for example Cubase, Logic, etc) you can make export (WAV up 16 Bars) the markers that you have made in your DAW (Variations, Fills, Breaks, etc) and it copy in disc of Audya, in folder USER_AUDIO_DRUMS....
It you can to put in any styles that you want, from Style View....
A diferent way is to searching loops from CD,s and whoever loop if you like, copy also this, in disc of Audya and you can, be put in any styles....
The markers of User_Audio_Drums it will be put from Audya, with automatic way with length of Loop.....Of course if it correct your loops.....

i see you do ins file you can tell me how you build ins file
thank you

When you have your sampler that you want to create please folow this steps:

1) PRESS THE (WAV) BUTTON AND PRESS (EDIT)

2) SELECT A WAV FILE AND PRESS ENTER (your samples your it will be supposed, they have name with the keys tone (for example C_3, D_3, E_3.....etc)

3) WITH KEY (F1_START) sets the start of note range on the keyboards

4) (F2_END) sets the end of the note range

5) (F3_KEY) sets the basic pitch (original tune of note)

6) (F4_PITCH) it can de TRACKING, that is tuning, for each dutton of the keyboards, or FIXED that is with fixed pitch for any keys of the keyboards (for example a Drums sample)...

7) (F8_END_POINT) sets where the sounds ends.

8) (F9-START POINT) sets where sounds loops (looping)

When finisch press SAVE give a name and it will be saved in MSP folder.
For more information please look the manual in 115 page..

no sokratis this is msp and i know to do .look in this topic

http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum22/HTML/001603.html

i meen to do this
i put this ins ram file in drum set (user "ins"and it's work with live drum
so i want to build set what i need
thank you

My friend.....
A Program file in Audya it constituted by three different Midi Channels...
This therefore means that it will be supposed are used three channels in Patern Edit…
Ketron has a other logic of manufacture sounds….
My opinion they is that they is very good because we do not overload the polyphony.....
You have thought that (for example a Korg Pa_2 xpo) does have up to and 16 oscillators per sound and each oscilator is a voice?
so....You think… if we have 5 sounds in a style, with 5 oscilators per sound, then we have 25 voices per Chord...
If we have 5 sounds with 10 oscillators 50 voices…
And if we have 5 with 16 oscillators 80 voices…
Therefore….Korg Pa_2 has 120 voices….
If we have 3 more sounds with 10 oscilators in STS SOLO, we have more 30 voices…
Total
Hence in each in per note we have reached in the limit….
If now we have 6 notes in our right hand, then that we have reached? ..... you make therefore the addition…
80+30=110….
110 voice per note.....
Audya a sound is a note.....And....Of course the Audio Drums no need midi polyphony......
So.....Now in Audya we play with more freedom......
It is my opinion.....I am working every day and I have Korg Pa_800 (also 120 voice) and Ketron Audya and SD_1....
I think that therefore I know about this......
Thank you.....

hi sokatis, I have 2 question and some comments:
1. it's normal that msp editor work with wave only in mono mode (you can add mono or stereo files but the final .mps will be always mono )?
if is true, than never can create good stereo sound, I can't believe !( only mix 2 mps in program but no sense)
2. often my file mps after created and saved (I tested with only 3-4 notes too) work fine but after reboot audya tell "this is not a valid .mps " and cannot load cannot edit. must make new.
About .ins i'm italian, and I talk with a big person of ketron that I suppose you know it. he told me they think about release a software for make .ins. but only think at moment and now total silence.
I don't believe need hardware. is only software for mix wave ecc.
the internal msp editor is very very bad. it's impossibile to create stereo sound, impossible to create a multilayer sample.. and of course if we create a drumkit (with only mono sound !) you cannot mix with internal drum sound. so... bad
I want to found 1 people that have create a good piano or good guitar msp file. it's impossibile without multilayer, without stereo... mps editor is for only for game with it

Hi my friend....
1) Of course in MSP files can use mono and Stereo wav files....

2) Yes....Now no is possible can edit a MSP when you saved....I know....It is bad....

3) About with create new INS file of course need and software, but it need a cable to connect with Audya to PC....But all this is exclusive for engeneer of Ketron......
I no have it cable of course....
This info I know for a engeneer of Ketron that I collaborate...

4) You are right....
Of course need multilayer for a good natural sound.....
But a MSP sound it is a Layer....However in a Program you can put 3 MSP or INS and can put up 3 layers (with MONO or STEREO wav files) and saved as Program...

5) I dont know about with INS file software for users.....

6) I beyond from a collaboration that I have with the company I cannot know also many drawings that they have .....
I know somebody but not all.....

So.....
You are right…
Is impossible we load Stereo Wav files….
A stereo file it will coverted in MONO file....
It was been reported from me in the company, through the engineer who I collaborate .....
We are in waiting .......
However we can make a combine in a Program, and put 2 or 3 mono MSP , in a stereo sound.......

Whan i edit msp with one sample instrument
end note work, whan i tach in keybord and orgenal
note work too. but when i want to change the start
Note (F1)it,s not move sameone know what is the
problem maybe i need to change parameter in midi
filter?(now all is open)
Thank you

Hello sas123

You can press F1, and change the value wtih the datawheel.

that is the problem if i change from value
left and right it's gump from tone to tone and not half tone

When F1 is highlighted, use the Data wheel to change the value, not the "<" ">" data tabs.

when saving a style the mutes in style view arent save. Is it anyway?

Turn the part volume to zero, then save the style as a User Style.
DonM

sameone know if ketron be make update with
User sample drum kit and use for edit pattren
Thank you

With the Ketron AUDYA, rather than creating a User Drum kit/set with multi-samples (like on the SD1/SD1-Plus), the User can simply record and Audio Drum Loop and save as a *.wav file. This way, your final performance sounds 'live' ... because it is live!

i can put msp sound in one of the ch in edit pattern ?
thank you

Yes,

Press Chord 1-3, then select MSP loaded (you must load MSP first before using it). It will automatically be loaded whenever this style is called up.

YES IT'S WORK
MORE REQ AJ
1.I CAN PUT MSP DRUM IN GROOVE AND HOW CAN DO IT ?
OR IF I DO DRUM MSP AND I PUT IT IN CH 1-3 IT CAN BE NOT MOVE WHAN I PLAY CHORDS
2. I HAVE AUDYA 5 OS 4.OA I CAN UPDATE TO 4.0B OR I CAN UPDATE TO 4.1B
THANK YOU AJ

No update yet available (as of 9/21/2010) for the Ketron AUDYA 4/5.

Yes, you can assign MSP to one of the Chords ... then MUTE the Drum track(s).

1.I meen to put in ch 1-3 drum set msp so whan i play and change chords the drum in ch 1-3 not move
2.i have in audya 5 os 4.0a .i can update to 4.1a?
Thank you aj

Ahhh .... then you will have to put it in the DRUM track.
Then from STYLE VIEW - press DRUM (F1) until the display shows MIDI DRUMS (this way, you are not using the audio drums).

There is no update yet for the AUDYA 4/5 appart from that shipped with the unit. You cannot update AUDYA 4/5 with AUDYA's 4.1b software.

Does anybody have a 7/8 style of any kind?
Thanks!

Yes Sandi..... I have made all this...
The ZEIBEKIKO style,I still cannot be shared him, because I use a new Drums set of Ketron, that has not been completed&#8230;
Exist still roughly 20 mine styles that I have sent in Ketron, and will be given in next Upgrate in all users&#8230;
But if you want can to downolad:
1)KALAMATIANO_7/8 STYLE with new Percusions Audio Drums
2)GREEK_ROUMBA (Its a Greek style with new Audio Drums that I have made with Kontakt_4 and ABBEY_ROAD 60'S expansion Drums kit....
3)FUNKY_3 its also a my new style with the new Audio Drums of new sound Upgrate....
Please copy the User_Audio_Drums files in User_Audio_Drums folder of Audya, and the styles in any folder (user_styles) if you want...
Can download from here http://www.divshare.com/download/12651247-cb7
ENJOY...
Thanks....

No....no I have any spesial, or easy way about this...
This User_Audio_Drums I have made in Cubase_4 and I have use the Kontakt_4 VST Sampler.....
The Drums_kit is the ABBEY_ROAD 60'S expansion DRUMS_KIT for Kontakt_4....VERY GOOD!!!!
So.....
I have made in Cubase_4, and when it is completed the midi programming of Drums, I make export audio all Drums instruments....
KICK_SNARE_HI HAT_TOM etc....
After this I made Audio_mix with Focusrite_Liquid Mix and more plug ins effects in my Home Studio.....
My studio monitors is Genelec 8040A...
When its ready I make again stereo audio mix the loops (markers)...
After all this is ready, I copy the loops in disc of Audya, and of course I make the style with this Audio_drums......

Since I did the pen update on my audya the sound is not as good I think it lost the live feel and they changed the guitar sound I was using I and won't let me edit to the way I want I had been really been looking forward to the update but I am so disappointed they didn't do any work on the country styles I have tried to create my own but I can't find a drum samples that comes close to what I want so in conclusion I think I'll have to give up ketron not good enough

Brian3331,

Yes, you can use your LIVE AUDIO Drums in AUDYA. Make sure you cut the samples to the required length of the Arranger you intend to assign the sample to, e.g 4, 5, 6, ...32 measures. Copy these samples into the AUDYA's Hard Drive - User Audio Drums folder, using the format Country_A@110.wav, Country_B@120.wav ... etc (where 120 is the BMP of the wave sample).

From your style, press the STYLE VIEW button and press F1 (Drums) until USER AUDIO DRUMS is displayed. Use the data value wheel to select your wave drums e.g Country_A@120. Now, when you press START, Arranger A will play the audio drums you've just installed. Repeat for all the other Arranger parts and press SAVE to save the new style. When next you recall this style, it will automatically load up the equivalent Audio drum loops!

As for the styles, we simply balanced them a little more ... and lowered the lower end of the drums (STYLE-MODE - DRUMS - Low Fq which used to be +3!). You can always revert to this setting ... then save the style once more.

...Would you guys recommend a program for converting CD's to MP3s?...

Just use Windows Media Player if your running windows. But you need to change it from the default WMA to MP3:
Tools -> Options -> Rip Music -> Format (select MP3)

and I rip at 320kbps.

Hi my friends......
I have made a small demo with my Audya, and I play a my favorite song (Take these chains from my heart - Ray Charles)....
All sounds its from Sound Upgrate....

http://divshare.com/download/12431994-42c

So......
1)The style is SWING_1...

2)The Gutar its JAZZ_GUIT&SLIDE from sounds Bank...No Program.....

3)The Piano also its the CONCERT_PIANO ( the first sound in Piano_Bank)
The Strings section its a my Performance and if you like you can download from here

http://www.divshare.com/download/12451277-bad

In this folder exist 2 more my Program files.....
I think it is very good in Live Gigs.....
I have in folder a small Manual with directives of installation....
But attention please..... your old program that you will select, it will be replaced&#8230;