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#363975 - 03/29/13 04:31 AM Need help from any Yamaha PSR user
vangelis Offline
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I recently acquired the Yamaha PSR-OR700,
my question to all is: Is there a reset of style button? like the KORG models or any combination that
I press to reset a style while playing live?

I posted this question in a few user groups with no replies at all? does anyone know?

thanks
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#363980 - 03/29/13 06:33 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Hi, by reset do you mean change to another style, or just reset it to the initial settings, like tempo?
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#363985 - 03/29/13 07:07 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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what are you actually doing ? more info and maybe we can help. confused1


Edited by Dnj (03/29/13 07:36 AM)

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#363990 - 03/29/13 07:29 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: tyroschuck]
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Originally Posted By: tyroschuck
Hi, by reset do you mean change to another style, or just reset it to the initial settings, like tempo?


Tempo reset, if the singer was to go off tempo and I wanted to start from the beginning of the style.
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#363991 - 03/29/13 07:30 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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I don't believe Yamaha has that. Korg and Roland do.
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#363995 - 03/29/13 08:32 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: DonM]
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I don't have access to my keyboard. but.. how about tap tempo or
pressing a registration button that will bring up the style again.
chuck
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#364002 - 03/29/13 09:46 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: tyroschuck]
vangelis Offline
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Originally Posted By: tyroschuck
I don't have access to my keyboard. but.. how about tap tempo or
pressing a registration button that will bring up the style again.
chuck


Tap tempo does not restart, and Registration Memory does not work either.
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#364005 - 03/29/13 10:10 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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I just quickly hit the sync start button twice.
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#364009 - 03/29/13 10:43 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
I just quickly hit the sync start button twice.
DonM


That probably works for the Tyros, I tried that and it just stops.
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#364026 - 03/29/13 08:55 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Well you have hit the chord again too. It's a matter of timing.
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#364034 - 03/30/13 04:10 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: DonM]
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If I have to hit the chord again, I lost the game, cause you have to be fast in order to correct this problem,I am working with 9/8 and various other rhythms and from what it looks like, only the KORG's and Roland's have this feature.
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#364048 - 03/30/13 09:45 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
Well you have hit the chord again too. It's a matter of timing.


Thanks! Don, with a little practice I got it, you have to first raise your hand off the chords, then hit the sync start button once and almost at the same time lower your finger and play a chord, it's hard because sometimes you miss, need lots of practice, well I see that KORG,KETRON and ROLAND have this feature which YAMAHA does not.
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#364060 - 03/30/13 11:29 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Yamaha doesn't have this, and they should. In that situation, I would hit the sync/start button and then immediately play the next chord - but if you do it in the wrong order, you have some uncomfortable silence - you screwed up.

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#364063 - 03/30/13 12:18 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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If memory serves me...Yamaha USED to have it on the PSR 5700. I miss it...but Don's method has served me well.
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#364140 - 04/01/13 01:51 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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get better singers.
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#364147 - 04/01/13 02:05 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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#364223 - 04/02/13 04:47 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Actually, Yamaha does have this feature. Merely press the + and - tempo buttons at the same time and the timing will revert to whatever the original tempo of the style is. It's that easy.

Good Luck,

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#364225 - 04/02/13 04:55 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Actually, Yamaha does have this feature. Merely press the + and - tempo buttons at the same time and the timing will revert to whatever the original tempo of the style is. It's that easy.

Good Luck,

Gary cool






confused confused Gary rough water getting to you..


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#364227 - 04/02/13 05:05 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Fran, you're right about the rough water. The past week has been horrendous, winds to 45 knots, waves to 8 feet, and temperatures much lower than my age. Two days ago, while motor-sailing north in the widest part of Chesapeake Bay we encountered the passage of a huge cold front. Fortunately, the winds were mostly astern, which made the ride a bit easier, but nevertheless, dangerous at times. It was imperative to keep the boat pointed perfectly downwind to prevent a massive wave from crashing over the stern of the boat and into the cockpit.

Now that I'm home, I still have my sea legs, which anyone that has been on a boat for days on end, especially in rough weather, knows what I'm talking about. Walking, driving a car, standing, sitting, it still feels like you are still on a rocking boat. After a good night or two on dry land, the feeling goes away and your inner ear stops trying to compensate for the constant motion of the boat.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#364256 - 04/03/13 04:28 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Actually, Yamaha does have this feature. Merely press the + and - tempo buttons at the same time and the timing will revert to whatever the original tempo of the style is. It's that easy.

Good Luck,

Gary cool

Well, I tried that, and it just shows the Tempo on the screen, it does not restart the tempo from the beginning, maybe this feature is for the TYROS not the PSR-700
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#364259 - 04/03/13 07:18 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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On all previous PSR and Tyos models, pressing both the + and - buttons resets the tempo. I believe you pressed the wrong button. If you press the "Tempo" button alone, this displays the current tempo. You must press the tempo's + and - buttons at together - this resets the tempo to the style's original tempo.

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#364264 - 04/03/13 08:32 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: travlin'easy]
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Gary, I don't think Vangelis' problem is with the actual TEMPO per se ... I think the problem is this:
Let's say he is playing a 4/4 style at TEMPO '90' and the vocalist holds a Whole note for 5 beats instead of 4 beats and comes in on the 2nd beat of the measure instead of the 1st ... the TEMPO stays at '90' but the vocalist is 1 beat off with the keyboard style ... Vangelis wants a quick and easy way to reset the style so that he is 'in sync' with the vocalist ...
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#364265 - 04/03/13 08:56 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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OK, if that's the case he needs a new vocalist - someone that hears the keyboard's beat instead of just their own voice. I've worked with a few musicians like that, folks that only hear their guitar, etc..., that's why I work alone.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#364270 - 04/03/13 09:29 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
OK, if that's the case he needs a new vocalist - someone that hears the keyboard's beat instead of just their own voice. I've worked with a few musicians like that, folks that only hear their guitar, etc..., that's why I work alone.
Cheers,
Gary cool


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#364278 - 04/03/13 10:47 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Or any other arranger made... LOL
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#364280 - 04/03/13 10:57 AM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: Diki]
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Another way to possibly handle this would be to use sync start and sync stop together.
It would require using your left hand continuously, and also to be quick and accurate changing chords. But everytime you hit your left hand chord it restarts the beat.
Its the only way I know of on my psr.
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#364282 - 04/03/13 12:27 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Forget it on the Yamaha.

Having faced this in the past (and the same problem exists even more so for SMF's, where they might still be on the beat, but come in a whole bar early!), the only thing you can do is start singing REALLY loudly on the correct beat and hope that they listen to you.

And basically, if this is something that really occurs enough to worry you, drop the singer. No matter HOW good looking she is!
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#364290 - 04/03/13 01:29 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: Diki]
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And basically, if this is something that really occurs enough to worry you, drop the singer. No matter HOW good looking she is!


But she books the gigs !!! rotfl
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#364301 - 04/03/13 03:55 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Ouch!
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#364303 - 04/03/13 03:58 PM Re: Need help from any Yamaha PSR user [Re: vangelis]
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Don't you just hate when that happens. wink

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