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#365001 - 04/15/13 06:08 PM Re: bk9 demo [Re: mirza]
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#365003 - 04/15/13 06:18 PM Re: bk9 demo [Re: Dnj]
Fran Carango Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: Diki
A friend has already ordered one. I'll review it ASAP...


Fran will probably have one soon also....can't wait!!! party

Get ready to dump some G70's..... dancers



You need to understand Logic 101... smile

The G70 has no chance ...being dumped is out of the question..

Here is the short list why: G70 isn't a plastic instrument..it is made to stay..It has the best keybed in the business...it has a great harmonizer..it has a great touch screen..it has aftertouch...

The BK9 first has to prove it will have a home here...let alone replacing the best keyboard I have seen to date..

I know Korg and Yamaha folks can't understand this...weight alone chases most people away grin



I may love the BK9..I will like it for sure, as I like the BK5..but it is silly to think this MOTL design wise keyboard will replace the TOTL G70 shocked

I also like to mention, after side by side playing of the E50 and BK5....I actually favor the E50 in many ways..especially dedicated buttons and touchscreen, lacking on the BK5....and will be lacking on the BK9 wink
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#365008 - 04/15/13 07:51 PM Re: bk9 demo [Re: mirza]
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I'm waiting for the BK-11... wink
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#365016 - 04/15/13 11:50 PM Re: bk9 demo [Re: mirza]
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I honestly think the CS and the audio loops, if I don't find any serious 'gotchas', will determine this to be my next gigging arranger.

TBH, I doubt it will replace my G70 for work with live bands, the superb action and ease of use of the touchscreen based OS is very important to me, but as a solo or duo keyboard, the CS is the best thing an arranger could have. I have little patience having to play repeated chord patterns over and over again, tying up my LH for no real reason, and the loop player allows me to finally start to get some of that breakbeat flava into my work. That's a pretty potent combination.

And yes, being a mere 21 lbs. is nice, too! An HK Nano and this, I might be able to WALK into a gig carrying not just my keyboard, but the PA too! Sweet!
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#365025 - 04/16/13 09:31 AM Re: bk9 demo [Re: mirza]
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#365026 - 04/16/13 10:06 AM Re: bk9 demo [Re: Phantom75]
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Finally it's like the Audya........
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#365028 - 04/16/13 10:15 AM Re: bk9 demo [Re: mirza]
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Thanks Phantom, very impressive, I enjoyed your demonstration. BTW, is that you in the videos?
I like what I see with this new BK9.
Are there some other demos coming - I mean demos of the features/possibilities to modify sound and styles...
Nice!
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#365029 - 04/16/13 10:19 AM Re: bk9 demo [Re: adimatis]
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no it's not me...I cannot play actually.... wink
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#365030 - 04/16/13 10:49 AM Re: bk9 demo [Re: Phantom75]
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Thanx for the demos.....so many more variations with these loop features........don't think The NEW Yamaha R&D aren't watching these tends for their Next TOTL Release.. wink
Now what do all you people in the past that have "shunned" the fact that people do use SMF, MP3's or any other method of playing "besides styles" feel about incorporating all this new Looping technology into arranger playing or is it really playing anymore or Dj'ing? etc..? confused1 or faking, confused1 or whatever you want to call it,....it was inevitable that all this "new" technology would catch up and somehow be part of the so called "LIVE" music making process which is now universally ACCEPTED? Jump onboard the Loop railroad my friends its leaving the station NOW!!! party


Edited by Dnj (04/16/13 10:57 AM)

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#365054 - 04/16/13 12:56 PM Re: bk9 demo [Re: mirza]
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Interesting demos. The loop feature has been present for years in Korg arrangers, like my PA2X-Pro, but compared with the Roland approach there are some differences. The BK-9 apparently streams the loop from an external source (like a pendrive), while in the PA they reside in memory (RAM), and this means that you have to load them beforehand. Advantage of the Roland approach: you don't need to load anything, but just assign each loop to a key in the upper octave of the keyboard. Advantage of the Korg approach: you are not limited to one loop at the time: since they are assigned to the multipads, you can play up to four of them together.
Of course the final result will depend on the kind of music you play and, consequently, on the kind of loops you choose. In these demos the loops are so complex that one of them is more than enough. On the other hand on my PA2X-Pro I use audio loops in a more "subtle" way; for example, in a latin style I can use percussions like congas, triangle, shakers, cabasa, guiro and so on, adding them during the song to create a rhythmic progression, and this approach works well also with ballads. Frankly, for the kind of music I play, I almost never use loops like those shown in these three videos, but if you are into disco, dance and so on they work fine. Anyway, choosing and creating a good loop is not easy and it's a little art in itself.
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