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#365149 - 04/18/13 08:54 AM BK 9 Manual
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The BK 9 Manual is here

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#365162 - 04/18/13 10:16 AM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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First observations:
1- there are only 22 Supernatural sounds (the Integra has 256)
2- there are only 2 V drum kits (the G-70 had at least five)
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#365164 - 04/18/13 10:32 AM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: Dreamer]
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Dreamer, like the E series and BK series...all the kits named "new" are V-drums...I also noticed the BK9 includes the great studio kits from the srx series..
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#365166 - 04/18/13 10:38 AM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: Fran Carango]
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OK Fran, I stand corrected.
Have you tried the Integra yet?
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#365168 - 04/18/13 11:15 AM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: Dreamer]
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Dreamer, I have not tried that unit yet...Are there really 256 Super Natural tones or are they Variations of the 22 mentioned in the BK9?

I know the unit has all the Roland library of sounds on board..


Edited by Fran Carango (04/18/13 11:16 AM)
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#365171 - 04/18/13 11:40 AM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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The Integra-7 has Many more SuperNatural sounds than the BK9.
I didn't see anything in the BK9 manual that mentions the future sound expansions. I hope that the sounds that are coming will include many more SuperNatural ones.
I would love to have the Violin, Cello, Uillean Pipes and the Chinese Erhu plus the Shakuhachi!


Edited by brooster (04/18/13 11:52 AM)

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#365174 - 04/18/13 12:21 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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Some good SuperNatural sounds here:

Roland BK-9, extraits

The trumpet in Bolero (Manha De Carnaval) does some weird things when the velocity gets too high.


Edited by brooster (04/18/13 12:36 PM)

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#365175 - 04/18/13 01:20 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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Fran,

here is a list of the Supernatural acoustic tones of the Integra:

SuperNATURAL Acoustic Tone
(Preset)
No. Tone Name 1 MSB LSB PC Category
1 Full Grand 1 89 64 1 Ac.Piano
2 Full Grand 2 89 64 2 Ac.Piano
3 Full Grand 3 89 64 3 Ac.Piano
4 Deep Grand 89 64 4 Ac.Piano
5 BrightGrand 89 64 5 Ac.Piano
6 UprightPiano 89 64 6 Ac.Piano
7 Mono Grand 89 64 7 Ac.Piano
8 Rock Grand 89 64 8 Ac.Piano
9 HonkyTonk Pf 89 64 9 Ac.Piano
10 ‘76 Pure 89 64 10 Ac.Piano
11 ‘73 Pure 89 64 11 Ac.Piano
12 ‘76 Stage 89 64 12 Ac.Piano
13 ‘73 Stage 89 64 13 Ac.Piano
14 ‘76 Tine 89 64 14 Ac.Piano
15 ‘73 Tine 89 64 15 Ac.Piano
16 ‘81 Tine 89 64 16 Ac.Piano
17 Felt Tine 89 64 17 Ac.Piano
18 Dyno Tine 89 64 18 Ac.Piano
19 Tea Time 89 64 19 Ac.Piano
20 Small Space 89 64 20 Ac.Piano
21 Phaser Dyno 89 64 21 Ac.Piano
22 90 Shift EP 89 64 22 Ac.Piano
23 SlowSpin EP 89 64 23 Ac.Piano
24 Phaser Tine 89 64 24 Ac.Piano
25 TcDlyEP CC18 89 64 25 Ac.Piano
26 Flanger Tine 89 64 26 Ac.Piano
27 Chorus Tine 89 64 27 Ac.Piano
28 JC ChorusEP 89 64 28 Ac.Piano
29 Dirty Tine 89 64 29 Ac.Piano
30 Pure Reed 89 64 30 Ac.Piano
31 ‘68 Reed 89 64 31 Ac.Piano
32 Vibrato Reed 89 64 32 Ac.Piano
33 Dirty Reed 89 64 33 Ac.Piano
34 Super Clav 89 64 34 Other Keyboards
35 Pure ClavCA1 89 64 35 Other Keyboards
36 Pure ClavCA2 89 64 36 Other Keyboards
37 Pure ClavCB1 89 64 37 Other Keyboards
38 Pure ClavCB2 89 64 38 Other Keyboards
39 Deep Clav 89 64 39 Other Keyboards
40 Drive Clav 89 64 40 Other Keyboards
41 Dist Clav 89 64 41 Other Keyboards
42 Phaser Clav1 89 64 42 Other Keyboards
43 Phaser Clav2 89 64 43 Other Keyboards
44 Spacy Clav 89 64 44 Other Keyboards
45 SoftSpinClav 89 64 45 Other Keyboards
46 Twah Clav 89 64 46 Other Keyboards
47 Awah Clav 89 64 47 Other Keyboards
48 PwahClv1CC18 89 64 48 Other Keyboards
49 PwahClv2CC18 89 64 49 Other Keyboards
50 B3 Jazz 1 89 64 50 Organ
51 B3 Jazz 2 89 64 51 Organ
No. Tone Name 1 MSB LSB PC Category
52 B3 Jazz 3 89 64 52 Organ
53 B3 Jazz 4 89 64 53 Organ
54 B3 Jazz 5 89 64 54 Organ
55 B3 Jazz 6 89 64 55 Organ
56 B3 Jazz 7 89 64 56 Organ
57 B3 Full D 89 64 57 Organ
58 B3 Bossa 89 64 58 Organ
59 C3 Rock 1 89 64 59 Organ
60 C3 Rock 2 89 64 60 Organ
61 C3 Rock 3 89 64 61 Organ
62 C3 Rock 4 89 64 62 Organ
63 C3 Rock 5 89 64 63 Organ
64 C3 Rock 6 89 64 64 Organ
65 Pure Wheel 1 89 64 65 Organ
66 Pure Wheel 2 89 64 66 Organ
67 Pure Wheel 3 89 64 67 Organ
68 Nostalgie 1 89 64 68 Organ
69 Nostalgie 2 89 64 69 Organ
70 Nostalgie 3 89 64 70 Organ
71 Nostalgie 4 89 64 71 Organ
72 Clean Cutter 89 64 72 E.Guitar
73 Flanger Cut 89 64 73 E.Guitar
74 Funk Cutting 89 64 74 E.Guitar
75 PhaseCutting 89 64 75 E.Guitar
76 Retro Phaser 89 64 76 E.Guitar
77 Twah Cutting 89 64 77 E.Guitar
78 PwahCut CC18 89 64 78 E.Guitar
79 AutoWah Back 89 64 79 E.Guitar
80 FunkMeister 89 64 80 E.Guitar
81 CleanTheater 89 64 81 E.Guitar
82 Warm Clean 89 64 82 E.Guitar
83 DelayedTwin 89 64 83 E.Guitar
84 Crunch Phase 89 64 84 E.Guitar
85 Clean Twin 89 64 85 E.Guitar
86 Clean Spirit 89 64 86 E.Guitar
87 Flange Clean 89 64 87 E.Guitar
88 Heart Break 89 64 88 E.Guitar
89 T-Bird Surf 89 64 89 E.Guitar
90 ClassicClean 89 64 90 E.Guitar
91 Groove Clean 89 64 91 E.Guitar
92 JC-Chorus 89 64 92 E.Guitar
93 Sweet Home 89 64 93 E.Guitar
94 Transistor 89 64 94 E.Guitar
95 Smooth Clean 89 64 95 E.Guitar
96 NY Clean 89 64 96 E.Guitar
97 Clean Dirty 89 64 97 E.Guitar
98 60s BritRock 89 64 98 E.Guitar
99 StandardJazz 89 64 99 E.Guitar
100 FingeredJazz 89 64 100 E.Guitar
101 Modern Jazz 89 64 101 E.Guitar
102 Mr.Octave 89 64 102 E.Guitar
103 Bright Live 89 64 103 E.Guitar
104 Stack Lead 89 64 104 Dist.Guitar
105 USA Legend 89 64 105 Dist.Guitar
106 Lead Legend 89 64 106 Dist.Guitar
107 Rotary Riff 89 64 107 Dist.Guitar
No. Tone Name 1 MSB LSB PC Category
108 Big Wing 89 64 108 Dist.Guitar
109 Crunch Chord 89 64 109 Dist.Guitar
110 60s Fuzz 89 64 110 Dist.Guitar
111 Cream Crunch 89 64 111 Dist.Guitar
112 Bunch Crunch 89 64 112 Dist.Guitar
113 Pwah OD CC18 89 64 113 Dist.Guitar
114 60s RockRiff 89 64 114 Dist.Guitar
115 70s RockRiff 89 64 115 Dist.Guitar
116 Texas Tusher 89 64 116 Dist.Guitar
117 Blues Master 89 64 117 Dist.Guitar
118 House Blues 89 64 118 Dist.Guitar
119 Apartment 89 64 119 Dist.Guitar
120 TWah Lead 89 64 120 Dist.Guitar
121 Warm Drive 89 64 121 Dist.Guitar
122 Hi-Gain Rock 89 64 122 Dist.Guitar
123 Metal Stack 89 64 123 Dist.Guitar
124 Purple Stack 89 64 124 Dist.Guitar
125 Lead Stack 89 64 125 Dist.Guitar
126 Cah Solo 89 64 126 Dist.Guitar
127 FeelGood Doc 89 64 127 Dist.Guitar
128 BullsOnRage 89 64 128 Dist.Guitar
129 Big Riff 89 65 1 Dist.Guitar
130 Hi-GainMetal 89 65 2 Dist.Guitar
131 Nice Touch 89 65 3 Dist.Guitar
132 Mild Solo 89 65 4 Dist.Guitar
133 Chorale 89 65 5 Dist.Guitar
134 PwahDst CC18 89 65 6 Dist.Guitar
135 Ac Bass 1 89 65 7 Ac.Bass
136 Ac Bass 2 89 65 8 Ac.Bass
137 Fing Bass 1 89 65 9 E.Bass
138 Fing Bass 2 89 65 10 E.Bass
139 Comp FingBs 89 65 11 E.Bass
140 Phaser Fing1 89 65 12 E.Bass
141 Phaser Fing2 89 65 13 E.Bass
142 Slap Bass 89 65 14 E.Bass
143 Pick Bass 89 65 15 E.Bass
144 Muted Bass 89 65 16 E.Bass
145 LowBoostPick 89 65 17 E.Bass
146 OD Pick Bass 89 65 18 E.Bass
147 Fretless 1 89 65 19 E.Bass
148 Fretless 2 89 65 20 E.Bass
149 CompFretless 89 65 21 E.Bass
150 Mr.Fretless 89 65 22 E.Bass
151 Classic Gtr 89 65 23 Ac.Guitar
152 Solid GutGt 89 65 24 Ac.Guitar
153 Gut Guitar 89 65 25 Ac.Guitar
154 Flamenco Gtr 89 65 26 Ac.Guitar
155 Rasgueado 89 65 27 Ac.Guitar
156 Warm Spanish 89 65 28 Ac.Guitar
157 ArpegSteelGt 89 65 29 Ac.Guitar
158 StrumSteelGt 89 65 30 Ac.Guitar
159 French Accrd 89 65 31 Accordion/
Harmonica
160 ItalianAccrd 89 65 32 Accordion/
Harmonica
161 Bandoneon 1 89 65 33 Accordion/
Harmonica
No. Tone Name 1 MSB LSB PC Category
162 Bandoneon 2 89 65 34 Accordion/
Harmonica
163 Harmonica 89 65 35 Accordion/
Harmonica
164 Southern 89 65 36 Accordion/
Harmonica
165 Blues Reed 89 65 37 Accordion/
Harmonica
166 Vibraphone 89 65 38 Bell/Mallet
167 Vibes Hard 89 65 39 Bell/Mallet
168 Vibes Trem 89 65 40 Bell/Mallet
169 Vibes Soft 89 65 41 Bell/Mallet
170 Marimba 89 65 42 Bell/Mallet
171 Marimba Soft 89 65 43 Bell/Mallet
172 Marimba Hard 89 65 44 Bell/Mallet
173 Glocken Hard 89 65 45 Bell/Mallet
174 Glocken Soft 89 65 46 Bell/Mallet
175 Glocken Cho 89 65 47 Bell/Mallet
176 Xylophone 89 65 48 Bell/Mallet
177 Hard Xylo 89 65 49 Bell/Mallet
178 TubulrBells1 89 65 50 Bell/Mallet
179 TubulrBells2 89 65 51 Bell/Mallet
180 Steel Drums 89 65 52 Percussion
181 Timpani 89 65 53 Percussion
182 Timpani Roll 89 65 54 Percussion
183 Harp 89 65 55 Plucked/Stroke
184 Gliss Dim 89 65 56 Plucked/Stroke
185 Gliss C Mixo 89 65 57 Plucked/Stroke
186 Gliss C HMin 89 65 58 Plucked/Stroke
187 Gliss C Dori 89 65 59 Plucked/Stroke
188 Harp Nail 89 65 60 Plucked/Stroke
189 Violin 1 89 65 61 Strings
190 Violin 2 89 65 62 Strings
191 Viola 89 65 63 Strings
192 Cello 1 89 65 64 Strings
193 Cello 2 89 65 65 Strings
194 Contrabass 89 65 66 Strings
195 Violin1 Pizz 89 65 67 Strings
196 Violin2 Pizz 89 65 68 Strings
197 Violin1 Stac 89 65 69 Strings
198 Viola Pizz 89 65 70 Strings
199 Cello1 Pizz 89 65 71 Strings
200 Cello2 Pizz 89 65 72 Strings
201 Cello1 Stac 89 65 73 Strings
202 ContrabassPz 89 65 74 Strings
203 StringsSect1 89 65 75 Strings
204 StringsSect2 89 65 76 Strings
205 5th Down Str 89 65 77 Strings
206 Slow Strings 89 65 78 Strings
207 Tape Strings 89 65 79 Strings
208 Marcato Str 89 65 80 Strings
209 MarcatoWarm 89 65 81 Strings
210 Strings Stac 89 65 82 Strings
211 Strings Pizz 89 65 83 Strings
212 Strings Trem 89 65 84 Strings
213 LargeChoirAh 89 65 85 Vox/Choir
214 LargeChoirOo 89 65 86 Vox/Choir
215 BoysChoir Ah 89 65 87 Vox/Choir
216 BoysChoir Oo 89 65 88 Vox/Choir
217 Choir Pad 89 65 89 Vox/Choir
218 Trumpet 1 89 65 90 Brass
219 Light Tp 89 65 91 Brass
220 Mellow Tp 89 65 92 Brass
221 MutedTrumpet 89 65 93 Brass
222 Bold MuteTp 89 65 94 Brass
223 DooBapMuteTp 89 65 95 Brass
224 Wah Trumpet 89 65 96 Brass
225 Trombone 1 89 65 97 Brass
226 Breathy Tb 89 65 98 Brass
227 Tb Staccato 89 65 99 Brass
228 Muted Tb 89 65 100 Brass
229 Bold MuteTb 89 65 101 Brass
230 French Horn 89 65 102 Brass
231 Sop Sax 1 89 65 103 Sax
232 SopSax1 Soft 89 65 104 Sax
233 Alto Sax 1 89 65 105 Sax
234 A.Sax 1 Soft 89 65 106 Sax
235 TenorSax 1 89 65 107 Sax
236 T.Sax 1 Soft 89 65 108 Sax
237 T.Sax Growl 89 65 109 Sax
238 Bari Sax 1 89 65 110 Sax
239 B.Sax 1 Soft 89 65 111 Sax
240 Oboe 1 89 65 112 Wind
241 Oboe 2 89 65 113 Wind
242 Bassoon 89 65 114 Wind
243 Clarinet 1 89 65 115 Wind
244 Clarinet 2 89 65 116 Wind
245 ClassicFlute 89 65 117 Flute
246 Jazz Flute 89 65 118 Flute
247 Piccolo Fl 89 65 119 Flute
248 Pan Flute 89 65 120 Flute
249 Sitar 1 89 65 121 Plucked/Stroke
250 Sitar 2 89 65 122 Plucked/Stroke
251 Elec Sitar 89 65 123 Plucked/Stroke
252 Shakuhachi 89 65 124 Flute
253 UilleanPipes 89 65 125 Wind
254 Bag Pipes 89 65 126 Wind
255 Erhu 89 65 127 Strings
256 AirFromChina 89 65 128 Strings

Plus, there are 1109 Supernatural Synth tones and 26 Supernatural drum kits.
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#365176 - 04/18/13 01:50 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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To have an idea of the sonic quality of the Integra here are some examples:

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#365177 - 04/18/13 01:51 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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This one is in japanese but very well done:

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#365178 - 04/18/13 01:53 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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#365179 - 04/18/13 01:54 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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#365180 - 04/18/13 01:57 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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The acoustic guitars are a bit "dry".
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#365181 - 04/18/13 01:59 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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Unless you have a Kronos, it's difficult to find a Rhodes like this one:
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#365182 - 04/18/13 02:01 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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This is one of my favorites: just listyen to the cymbals and the gong.
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#365183 - 04/18/13 02:02 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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Another beautiful Rhodes.
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#365184 - 04/18/13 02:03 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: Dreamer]
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Multitracking & let your imagination run wild !
So many ways to create music besides "Styles"
Sounds AWESOME ! clap

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#365185 - 04/18/13 02:04 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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This should be present also in the BK-9, but I doubt that it will sound the same.
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#365186 - 04/18/13 02:06 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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I always dreamt to be a timpani player... wink
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#365187 - 04/18/13 02:07 PM Re: BK 9 Manual [Re: brooster]
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...or to be Paganini.
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