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#365192 - 04/18/13 02:36 PM Who makes the best Latin styles?
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Latin is such a broad term but I'm refering more to the "tropical" or carribbean styles like salsa, merengue, cha-cha-cha, mambo and bachata. I think the Audya is by far the leader in this category and maybe Roland is in 2nd, followed by Korg and Yamaha. What do you think?


Audya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsBziDv-gzY

Roland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSaSZa7My...re=results_main
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#365193 - 04/18/13 02:45 PM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: montunoman]
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#365195 - 04/18/13 03:03 PM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: montunoman]
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I agree with you 100%. Ketron have always been ahead with Latin material, probably because they take advantage of the expertisse of Latin Percussionists and style writers rather than a European keyboard players interpretation of a Latin Style - and with the Audya's Audio Drums and guitars it just raises the bar again.

In my oppinion Roland have the best sounding midi drum kits but don't take advantage of them with exceptional style writing. If anyone from Roland is reading this - get real drummers and percussionists on your Midi Drum Kits rather than style writers with sequencers.

Here are a couple more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jod50sAjWDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tOMYgRbrP0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba9nUSgmNOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eln6AQsY9_w






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#365196 - 04/18/13 03:23 PM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: montunoman]
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I have to agree as well; I have always admired the Ketron latin styles, to the point that I was ready to buy an Audya 4 to use just as a backing module, but then I discovered the Roland BK-7m, whose latin styles are really well programmed, and so got that one: not the same quality as the Audya live drums, but more than enough for my needs... not to mention that I saved 2000 euros in the process.
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#365218 - 04/18/13 09:18 PM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude
I agree with you 100%. Ketron have always been ahead with Latin material, probably because they take advantage of the expertisse of Latin Percussionists and style writers rather than a European keyboard players interpretation of a Latin Style - and with the Audya's Audio Drums and guitars it just raises the bar again.

In my oppinion Roland have the best sounding midi drum kits but don't take advantage of them with exceptional style writing. If anyone from Roland is reading this - get real drummers and percussionists on your Midi Drum Kits rather than style writers with sequencers.

Here are a couple more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jod50sAjWDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tOMYgRbrP0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba9nUSgmNOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eln6AQsY9_w







Yes, it seems like a lot of Latin styles must have been programmed by (European?) players with more of a ballroom concept of Latin music. Very watered down. "Sin Sabor" (without flavor)
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#365219 - 04/18/13 09:22 PM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: Dreamer]
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Originally Posted By: Dreamer
I have to agree as well; I have always admired the Ketron latin styles, to the point that I was ready to buy an Audya 4 to use just as a backing module, but then I discovered the Roland BK-7m, whose latin styles are really well programmed, and so got that one: not the same quality as the Audya live drums, but more than enough for my needs... not to mention that I saved 2000 euros in the process.


Yes, that's why I'm looking more toward Roland now. I don't see being able to afford an Audya frown I wish they could make a MOTL without all the bells and whistles- just give those great Latin styles and I'd happy smile
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#365225 - 04/19/13 12:11 AM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: montunoman]
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Montunoman: exactly! Personally I don't care about the Audya sounds, because I have plenty of them in my other keyboards, but if Ketron would put out an Audya 4 with only the styles (audio tracks) and priced it below 2000 euros I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Roland, with the BK-7m, gave everyone a lesson in marketing, showing how things have to be done, especially in this time of crisis.
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#365229 - 04/19/13 05:41 AM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: Dreamer]
Tonewheeldude Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dreamer
Montunoman: exactly! Personally I don't care about the Audya sounds, because I have plenty of them in my other keyboards, but if Ketron would put out an Audya 4 with only the styles (audio tracks) and priced it below 2000 euros I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Roland, with the BK-7m, gave everyone a lesson in marke
ting, showing how things have to be done, especially in this time of crisis.


Maybe the MidJay Pro would be suitable as it has the Audio Drums

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#365230 - 04/19/13 05:42 AM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: montunoman]
Tonewheeldude Offline
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Originally Posted By: montunoman


Yes, it seems like a lot of Latin styles must have been programmed by (European?) players with more of a ballroom concept of Latin music. Very watered down. "Sin Sabor" (without flavor)


I can post some hardcore Latin stuff next week - the audya has tons of it - its just there are none i ould find on youtube that i could link too.

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#365232 - 04/19/13 06:04 AM Re: Who makes the best Latin styles? [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude


Maybe the MidJay Pro would be suitable as it has the Audio Drums


Yes, but how much of them has inside? Could it be the whole package? The Full Monthy? I would love if they will put inside the jazz bossa and the jazz samba, but I guess that we'll have to wait until it's released, unless you know something already... (hint, hint...)
With the Audya audio drums inside, the Midjay Pro could be really a killer instrument, even more so because is technologically more up-to-date than the Audya (just to name a feature it has an SSD drive vs an ancient ATA drive, and so could stream the loops better).
Can you tell us something more, so that can we start to save our pennies? smile
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