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#365310 - 04/20/13 08:46 AM
Re: BK9 carry it under your arm....
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#365312 - 04/20/13 09:54 AM
Re: BK9 carry it under your arm....
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Donny
So when are you getting your Roland Dealership ??? Or are you and Fran going partners. Toms River Music just went under so theres a nice spot open. Your close by so I would love it. HA! 61 keys, what next, color it silver and add chessy speakers !!! Just a joke ! BTW how many of us move our keyboards around under our arm like that? One misjudged doorway and whack, your outta business. LOL
Edited by Bill Lewis (04/20/13 09:57 AM)
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#365324 - 04/20/13 12:16 PM
Re: BK9 carry it under your arm....
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#365337 - 04/20/13 04:29 PM
Re: BK9 carry it under your arm....
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Registered: 04/25/05
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TBH, yes, it's a plus IF things were equivalent... If the BK9 were a G70 at 21 lbs, I would be the happiest guy alive. Sadly, it ain't. The action is still, compared to the G70, a lightweight (albeit, not nearly as light weight as the PSR series). I have taken the action out of a couple of G70's to work on (most of my friends with them get me to do minor fixes) and the action alone would probably account for well over half the BK9's total weight!
This translates into something that feels wonderful to play, yes, not as heavy as a full 88 wood, but that delicious compromise between flyweight synth actions and full weight piano. If you are playing both kinds of parts, this is the best compromise ever made, IMO.
Mind you, the same action was in the G1000/800, and they managed to come in a good 5 lbs lighter than the G70 (don't get me started about the MUCH heavier E80, which only had a synth action 61, but had a beefy speaker system!) so Roland definitely didn't have weight on their mind when they designed it! But the G70 is built like a tank, I guarantee it will outlast any BK9 that isn't babied carefully by its owner.
So, all in all, win some, lose some!
As I've said, simply because of the Chord Sequencer and the Audio Key feature, I'm probably getting a BK9 for solo work, and sure, I won't mind the weight while I'm carrying it! But the minute I start to PLAY, I'm going to miss that extra 24 lbs! But, truth be known, there's really only two times a night when I actually CARRY my G70... As I pull it out the flight case and put it on the stand, and when I put it back. The rest of the time, it is dollied. And, as I get older (and maybe wiser!) I have started to make sure my case is resting on something, raised up, so I don't bend to the ground to lift the beast out. So far, no hernias..!
And Donny... at less weight than most 61's, why would you even WANT a 61 version? Don't forget, that Audio Key feature chews up 7 of the top notes. That don't leave you much on a 61. And more notes with less weight, finally you can play proper piano parts (or real close, anyway!) without busting your back!
I'll be using the BK9 for solo gigs, but I'll still be using my G70 for all full band stuff (which is still the majority of my work these days), because what you play ON is still important...
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#365383 - 04/21/13 01:45 PM
Re: BK9 carry it under your arm....
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Until arrangers get VH's that approach the better standalones, I am not sure that saddling yourself with something that makes such a primary impact on your sound simply for the convenience of not making a couple of hookups is a great idea.
Personally, I don't use VH, despite the G70's being decent (for an arranger!), so the BK-9 missing one won't be a deal breaker. I am not sure how far I want to stretch my audiences credibility. There comes a point that, unless you spend a fair bit of time SHOWING them how everything works (and who goes out on a Sat. night to see that!), they can't tell the difference between you and a karaoke act. Adding harmonies certainly walks you down that path! But to each, his own, I guess.
On stage, I've played almost every action there is... nasty stiff poorly regulated Rhodes's, crisp clavinets, SteinwayD's, B3's, synths old and new. You name it, played it! I have to confess, stick me on a desert island and say I have to choose ONE action (not sound), I'll take that G70's any day! One ring to rule them all...
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