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#368288 - 06/29/13 08:40 AM
Re: Arrangers sales are not dying! (here)
[Re: shim]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Fran, no one in the keys asked for the Cupid Shuffle or Cha Cha Slide, or any other song I would need an MP3 file for. I have them in the PC - just in case of an emergency. Hey, the Florida keys are America's version of the Bahamas - not the Jersey Shore. Lots of Jimmy Buffett, a smattering of Bob Marley, lots of country, some 60s, 70s, and 80s rock, all stuff that's in most, quality, arranger keyboards. I guess some folks need MP3s, but I'm just not one of them. Gary
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!
K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#368294 - 06/29/13 10:33 AM
Re: Arrangers sales are not dying! (here)
[Re: shim]
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Yes, I have a folder with a couple hundred MP3s just in case the arranger keyboard were to meet it's untimely demise. But, in all the years I've been using arranger keyboards I've never had one die - not once. Consequently, the MP3s are never used. So, if that emergency ever arises, then I'll fire up the PC's MP3 player and become a DJ until the end of the job. When I get home, I'll put my backup keyboard in the case, fix the one that died, or send it to the local repair guy, who would get it back to me within a week or less. Cheers, Gary
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!
K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#368322 - 06/29/13 11:34 PM
Re: Arrangers sales are not dying! (here)
[Re: Bill Lewis]
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Registered: 03/26/08
Posts: 287
Loc: USA
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To answer your questions in short? The ultra orthodox Jewish community. Williamsburg, Boro Park, Crown Heights, Flatbush. Like I said: reporting from "BROOKLYN"... Israel, and the middle east in general as well HEAVILY use arranger keyboards for gigs like weddings, "bar mitzvah's", etc.
I know for a fact from talking to people here, there are YOUNG people buying keyboards all the time. From Psr s710, korg pa500 to pa3x and Tyros..
And the reason I say its not dying is because thank G-d the Jewish community is thriving bli ayin hara and constantly growing, AND one man band is a staple of Jewish life here. The average wedding hires a one man band, and, thank G-d, there are lots of them. This is partially I believe to limit the overall cost of the wedding which would be raised considerably were they to hire a full band.
Now DIKI, this is the reason we all use custom styles. Because we play unique jewish "hassidic" music, which, unfortunately the keyboard companies do not include styles for...
I'm saying all this to encourage you all, from first hand knowledge, that the arranger, and one man band business is not a dying but to the contrary, "thriving" here and in Israel and the middle east. Thank G-d.
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#368323 - 06/30/13 12:02 AM
Re: Arrangers sales are not dying! (here)
[Re: shim]
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Registered: 08/24/04
Posts: 666
Loc: City of Angels in the golden s...
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To answer your questions in short? The ultra orthodox Jewish community. Williamsburg, Boro Park, Crown Heights, Flatbush. Like I said: reporting from "BROOKLYN"... Israel, and the middle east in general as well HEAVILY use arranger keyboards for gigs like weddings, "bar mitzvah's", etc.
I know for a fact from talking to people here, there are YOUNG people buying keyboards all the time. From Psr s710, korg pa500 to pa3x and Tyros..
And the reason I say its not dying is because thank G-d the Jewish community is thriving bli ayin hara and constantly growing, AND one man band is a staple of Jewish life here. The average wedding hires a one man band, and, thank G-d, there are lots of them. This is partially I believe to limit the overall cost of the wedding which would be raised considerably were they to hire a full band.
Now DIKI, this is the reason we all use custom styles. Because we play unique jewish "hassidic" music, which, unfortunately the keyboard companies do not include styles for...
I'm saying all this to encourage you all, from first hand knowledge, that the arranger, and one man band business is not a dying but to the contrary, "thriving" here and in Israel and the middle east. Thank G-d. That was exactly what I expected.Mid east ( iran/arabic/turkish)/mediterranian ( greek/labenese/cypress etc),Balkans and USSR,soutb EU ( Italy and Spain)some west EU ( Germany and even some UK) immigrant and 1st to 3 rd gen hyphenated ameican community living in US have mainly arranger use.( mainly in major cities like NY/LA/Ch etc) Mid east and balkans especially.( ask the US retailers about their customers who buys TOTL arrangers - they will tell you it's mainly from immigrant community in US).Of course synthzone memebers are minority.Total synthzone members combined will be still less that arrangers users/buyers from Cairo or Istanbul or Tel Aviv. The reason for TOTL or MOTL reason is sampling and 3rd party style support ( Korg /Roland/Ketron has major style sound support in there since local musicians create currenly or legacy ethnic styles) .Sampler is also common since you dont have good Oud presets are hard to find even in TOTL Korg or Ketron.
Edited by jamman (06/30/13 12:08 AM)
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