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#368802 - 07/09/13 07:55 AM
Re: Crown CM311 Mic on Stupid Deal/Musiciansfriend
[Re: Diki]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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You have to have quite a good compressor to be able to use your full voice range if the mike is planted an inch away from your mouth. Sure, you can learn to restrict what you can, and control it yourself. But you aren't using your FULL voice if you do. It's like deciding to never play ff or pp, and just play mp to mf. You COULD do it, but why would you WANT to? LOL So, Diki, are You saying Garth Broods, Nugent, Madonna, Sher, Jimmy Buffett, and a huge number of other top performers don't use their full vocal voices? Gee, I wonder why they're so popular, then?
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#368804 - 07/09/13 09:03 AM
Re: Crown CM311 Mic on Stupid Deal/Musiciansfriend
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 01/27/01
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So, Diki, are You saying Garth Broods, Nugent, Madonna, Sher, Jimmy Buffett, and a huge number of other top performers don't use their full vocal voices? Gee, I wonder why they're so popular, then? That's a pretty good touche. I found my vocal technique changed for the better when I started using the headset. On the other hand, I have seen some great singers whose voices I would die for bring their hand held mic back for those high notes. I guess the headset isn't for everyone, but given all of the buttons, keys, and knobs that us arranger keyboardists have to deal with, it does offer the distinct advantage (or crutch) of always being by your mouth.
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#368809 - 07/09/13 10:05 AM
Re: Crown CM311 Mic on Stupid Deal/Musiciansfriend
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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You have to have quite a good compressor to be able to use your full voice range if the mike is planted an inch away from your mouth. Sure, you can learn to restrict what you can, and control it yourself. But you aren't using your FULL voice if you do. It's like deciding to never play ff or pp, and just play mp to mf. You COULD do it, but why would you WANT to? LOL So, Diki, are You saying Garth Broods, Nugent, Madonna, Sher, Jimmy Buffett, and a huge number of other top performers don't use their full vocal voices? Gee, I wonder why they're so popular, then? And the forementioned use lots of gimmicky effects to cover up..
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#368825 - 07/09/13 01:46 PM
Re: Crown CM311 Mic on Stupid Deal/Musiciansfriend
[Re: Fran Carango]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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I guess the operative word on Gary's post is ENTERTAINER. I didn't see an outstanding singer on the list.
You wouldn't catch world-class singers like Nat King Cole, Mariah Carey (she does wear a wireless when she shakes her a** and lip synchs), Ella, Sarah Vaughan, Billy Eckstine, Joe Williams...even relative lightweights but talented vocalists like Johnnie Mathis, Frank, Tom Jones, Englebert, Harry Connick and many others perform live without being able to use the dynamic characteristics of a microphone.
And, man, are they a joy to watch as they change angle, distance, move off-center, etc., making every song their own.
Entertainers are one thing...real singers; entirely, something else and a pure joy to watch/listen to.
Can you imagine Mason singing and dancing with a headset?
Wait just a minute!!!! I'd pay real money to see that! (LOL)!
Russ
Edited by captain Russ (07/09/13 02:11 PM)
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#368833 - 07/09/13 04:55 PM
Re: Crown CM311 Mic on Stupid Deal/Musiciansfriend
[Re: captain Russ]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Russ, most of the wonderful singers you happen to have mentioned were mostly dead before headset mics were invented for anyone other than telephone operators. And, I loved those voices, too. However, you are now talking about individuals that really didn't need a mic at all to sing - they had incredible vocal control, and I sincerely believe a lot of that came naturally. Personally, I think Elvis probably had one of the best singing voices ever. I thought it was much smoother and cleaner than Sinatra's, but I loved those wonderful tones produced by Mel Torme even more than Elvis or Sinatra. And for fantastic country vocals, I thought Marty Robbins was right at the top of the list. But, what the Hell do I know. In my case, I had to work damned hard at vocal control, and my first experience at this was as a radio newscaster on WHRF Radio in Bel Air, MD, then WCAO, and finally, doing voice-overs for WBAL in Baltimore. No pull away effects, no one riding a board, just voice control. Like said, a headset mic is not for everyone, Neither is a handheld! Cheers, Gary
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