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#370127 - 08/08/13 06:08 PM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Thanks for posting that one Gary. I've been wanting to add that one to my playlist since I heard Don M play at his country club gig.
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#370154 - 08/09/13 08:00 AM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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When I lived in Palestine, Texas, which was when I first got married, the locals pronounced it Amarilla. I guess it kinda stuck with me.

I'm going to redo the recording and use a lot less reverb. I'll do it later today and post it.

Thanks guys,

Gary cool
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#370160 - 08/09/13 09:28 AM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
When I lived in Palestine, Texas, which was when I first got married, the locals pronounced it Amarilla. I guess it kinda stuck with me.

I'm going to redo the recording and use a lot less reverb. I'll do it later today and post it.

Thanks guys,

Gary cool


Gary great tune,.....I would say the vocals are a bit OVER Modulated peaking throughout causing distortion & just a bit bottom heavy...nothing some EQ adjustments and gain couldn't fix...otherwise I'm glad your on your way to S950 Happiness!!
The R&R voc setting works for me..

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#370172 - 08/09/13 01:13 PM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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The tendency to use too much reverb is a bit like the tendency to have our RH Parts a bit too loud... It comes from trying to make our performance sound great WHILE WE ARE PLAYING.

Thing is, while you are singing, you not only hear the arranger and your voice with the effects coming out of the speakers (or headphones, if you are using those - you should, so you can turn off the speakers and avoid bleed into the vocal mike if recording at home), but you are ALSO hearing your own 'head voice', that is, the acoustic sound of your voice and what the ears pick up from vibrations going through your head from throat to ears internally...

Now, this 'head voice' gets added into what you are hearing, but of course, it has no effects on it. So this tends to make what YOU hear a bit drier than what is coming out of the speakers (or cans). So, to get a perfect effect level on the recording, you should always set your reverb a bit drier than you actually want to hear..! Then on playback (with the head voice no longer present in your ears) it should be much closer to what you want.

Experiment a bit with it... remember, reverb is really a 'distance' parameter. You want your voice front and center (where singers like to be!), so you don't want to push it to the back with too much reverb!

Try to bed the vocal reverb in with the track... if the style is pretty wet, you can get away with a fair amount on the vocal. But if the style on the whole is not very 'reverb-y', keep your vocal in the same ballpark, and it will all gel together nicely.

Hope this helps.
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#370177 - 08/09/13 01:52 PM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Thanks everyone, and I really do listen to your comments - I have a notepad page filled with things to do in order to make those improvements you suggested.

Gary cool
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#370189 - 08/09/13 07:31 PM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Gary, I didn't expect to hear such a deep baritone; it sounds good.

I played my NH gig today with the 950 out of the box. It was fine, but I didn't realize I had done a few things to the 910. I'll definitely have to tweak a few things before the next job. Thank goodness I have. Almost two weeks vacay before the next job...
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#370194 - 08/09/13 08:38 PM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Cass, I'm still in the tweaking and tuning process as well. I have a job tomorrow, but the 3000 will be going with me. The following week is relatively light, just three jobs, and the way the weather has been lately, on my days off it will be raining, so I won't be able to sail and spend lots of time on the 950.

Tonight, I worked on the vocal processor for three hours. I'm still not happy with the results, especially when using the Crown CM-311A. The distortion was really noticeable, so I switched mics to my Sennheiser E-855, which seems to be quite a bit cleaner. It probably has something to do with the mic input impedance, and if this is the case, I'll try hooking up my TC Helicon Harmony-M and fire it into the line-in of the keyboard and see if that improves things.

Here's a song I recorded using the onboard recorder and the Sennheiser E-855.

By The Time I Get To Phoenix

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#370211 - 08/10/13 08:22 AM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Thanks Brian. I hope to connect the Harmony-M this afternoon when I get home from today's job.

Gary cool
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#370214 - 08/10/13 08:29 AM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
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Honestly I just weened myself off the VH in my act I ain't carrying anymore stuff to a gig...my vocals are strong enough not to need the gimmicy VH, just not worth it to me anymore it just adds another "FAKETIVITY ELEMENT" to my act on top of a arranger KB to the audience.. ...I will however use outboard units like the tc helicon units, to create some killer "backing harmony vocals" tracks at home for live work to play and sing with in songs that require it, versus live style play of which the s950 really shines,.......


Edited by Dnj (08/10/13 08:34 AM)

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#370217 - 08/10/13 08:55 AM Re: S950 discoveries... [Re: travlin'easy]
montunoman Offline
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Loc: Dallas, Texas
Hi Donny, on your pre-recorded tracks that you perform with, why don't you record your "real voice" doing the harmonies? I guess I'm confussed why you don't like to use a VH live but you use it for your pre recorded backing tracks.
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