a quick vamp???

Idon't use the seq much, but just tried "Quick Record" method to generate a 4-bar vamp/loop.
wanted drums from a factory style, then wanted to add: bass, keys, flutes.
for some reason it wouldn't let me do Manual Bass - had to use the full style options. what's up with that?

is there a workaround?
what do you Korg players do when you need to build a quick short sequence (drums sourced from a style; everything else played or overdubbed...)

thanks in advance for any help -- also, does anyone know if the PA900 seq (both for 16 trks and "Backing Sequence" or Quick Reocrd) is the same as the PA3x?

TM

Use quick record and just play the chords in your selected style. Save your song.Then use the full sequencer in the same song and punch in from the first bar of the bass track and manually play your bass line . Alternatively you can just overwrite the bass track in the full sequencer. both methods work .Save it again. Job Done. I hope that helps

^^^ +1. Korg gives you pretty much anything you want/need.

thank you!!!

this seemingly simple thing really eluded me. I followed yr instructions using Quick Record and then opening song in full sequencer and it was easy to do.

really appreciate this forum for this kind of wisdom....

I still always do my initial 'capture' in my Roland's, then transfer to Cubase. I'm sorry, but while you CAN do most of what you want in an arranger's sequencer, who on earth would want to? LOL

Nice big 27" screen, mousing to select (or conditional selects), sophisticated editing options... Or a tiny screen and no mouse.

Tough choice!

It does what you need it to do Diki . Sometimes you don't need to have everything just to get your ideas nailed. I enjoy creating music on the instrument I actually play so its natural for me to sequence on my korg

I like to use the on board sequencer too...It is right there when you need it...

If you have a major project...the PC simplifies the work...even than ...I use the on board Roland sequencer..

For me it's about ease of use. It's not that necessarily I am looking for MORE than the built-in can do (although that's handy for when you do need it!) but it's mainly about the SPEED of use.

A big screen and a piano roll display often makes it simplicity itself to visualize what's going on, to easily spot where things went south, and to quickly see what needs doing. Plus there are usually key combinations to do stuff like quickly select all the instances of just ONE note (say you want to select all the ride cymbal notes to raise or lower them) without having to type into fields, etc.. As you say, when laying things down quickly, you want speed. Thing is, I can do things ten times faster on a computer!

AND... when I've finished the MIDI editing part, the project is already in the DAW for laying down audio tracks to, or replacing some of the parts with VSTi's, etc.

One of the things that makes using a computer so easy for me is that, at home, I set up my keyboard at my computer workstation, with the nearfields wired in, ready to go. I've got something very similar to this: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sauder-Saturn-Multi-Level-Computer-Workstation-Black-and-Cherry/11003066 and with the keyboard above the mouse and keyboard drawer, the monitor above that and the nearfields on the outside, my arranger isn't just connected to my computer... it's a PART of my computer.

And just how portable is that setup Diki ?The whole purpose of having a sequencer built into the keyboard is that you can capture your ideas when you're inspired. I am normally inspired when I'm playing my keyboard and I don't just play my keyboard in the house. The gentleman that started this post initially wanted to make a quick recording. Using the keyboard in arranger style .He could not have done this using a standard sequencer as quickly as he did using the inbuilt sequencer . I showed him how and he is happy

. This is just a prime example of why people need a sequencer built into their arranger keyboard. This helps them capture ideas very quickly.

Hi Spalding

Reading Diki’s post I get the impression that the computer is to easily get the file up to a top notch performance a lot easier than using the on-board sequencer.
For quick inspiration while you are playing your keyboard, than doing the basic recording on the on-board sequencer is fine. (Unless you regularly use a laptop live, which in that case you might as well use that)

Bill

Yep... I use the built-in MIDI 'capture' on my arranger to get down what I actually PLAY. But then, when it comes time to edit, polish, substitute, and anything else my imagination feels like, it gets transferred to the computer, and the polish is done there.

I gave up on built-in sequencers decades ago...

In the end , we are all saying the same thing. You can use either the keyboard internal sequencer or an external computer to capture your initial ideas. All that is different is the preference that people have as to which tool they use and which they prefer. There is no right or wrong answer its just a preference.

Diki Correctly pointed out that you can do most of the sequencing on an internal keyboard without the use of an external computer. But he asked the question why would you?. I have answered the question why I would. You may not, and Diki may not, and I am sure neither of you are alone in that view.

But it is clear that keyboard manufacturers realise there are a whole bunch of people out there that use their keyboards in different ways and that is why they have accommodated those who wishto use the internal sequencer for whatever reason and also wish to align the keyboard with an external computer.

Everybody is happy and able to make great music as they choose .

Actually, I was a very strong critic of the fact that all the BK series until you got to the BK-9 had no internal sequencer or any way to capture MIDI unless you hooked up via USB to a computer or laptop... You could record audio, but not MIDI internally.

I am a strong believer in having a simple MIDI capture in the arranger itself. You usually get MUCH tighter timing that way than slaving a computer to the arranger's clock (or vice versa) and transferring what you play down the USB (or MIDI) pipe, especially with how much sys-ex tends to get used, these days. And yes, I agree that having a simple capture onboard is important for when inspiration strikes at a gig, or at a friend's, or just jamming at the pool!

My only take is that, once that is done, editing is MUCH faster, simpler and easier in the computer. Yes, you can do MOST of the editing capabilities of something like Cubase inside your arranger... But it takes five times as long to do anything serious to the sequence. No argument that you CAN do it all in the arranger, but why slow yourself down unnecessarily?

Was going to respond but changed my mind . Cheers