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#370785 - 08/20/13 01:32 AM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: montunoman]
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I'd say that Yamaha's wind and brass SA2 voices still have the edge over Roland (let's be fair, they've been working on them for years!), but having played both, I definitely give the nod to Roland's SN guitars. For a first time out of the gate, they have absolutely NAILED those, and beaten Yamaha at making them playable and predictable.

I still get the odd twinge of jealousy when I hear a really well played SA2 sax solo... but OTOH, those are few and far between outside of edited sequences.

Look, every arranger out there nowadays has something going for it. If one of them held the edge in everything, well, nobody would buy anything else! My friend's PA3x is superb. My BK-9 is superb. A T4 is superb. We live in great times..!
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#370808 - 08/20/13 09:00 AM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
I'd say that Yamaha's wind and brass SA2 voices still have the edge over Roland (let's be fair, they've been working on them for years!), but having played both, I definitely give the nod to Roland's SN guitars. For a first time out of the gate, they have absolutely NAILED those, and beaten Yamaha at making them playable and predictable.

I still get the odd twinge of jealousy when I hear a really well played SA2 sax solo... but OTOH, those are few and far between outside of edited sequences.

Look, every arranger out there nowadays has something going for it. If one of them held the edge in everything, well, nobody would buy anything else! My friend's PA3x is superb. My BK-9 is superb. A T4 is superb. We live in great times..!


Couldn't agree more!
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#370823 - 08/20/13 01:57 PM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: DonM]
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Maybe Yamaha has an edge because they actually build real brass and woodwind instruments!. They have the best to sample from!
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#370850 - 08/20/13 08:43 PM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: montunoman]
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Dreamer, I surely would like to know the MAXX EQ and Audio settings used on that demo you posted! I wish there were a way to find out.
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#370860 - 08/21/13 01:56 AM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: DonM]
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I hear you, Don. I just loved the overall sound: that demo almost sold me and I am really thinking to trade my Pa2X for a Pa3X; anyway, since in September they should unveil the Midjay Pro and in October the new Tyros, better stay put for a little while more.
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#370889 - 08/21/13 08:23 AM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: montunoman]
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Agree, Dreamer. It did inspire me to play around with my settings again though. I've learned that a little e.q. is a lot on this thing. Also, the default volume is about 6 decibels less than previous models. It helps to boost the volume by 6 on the MAXX audio settings. I know it's just overall volume, but at least the perceived effect is pleasing to my old ears.
AJ is very enthusiastic about the upcoming Midjay Pro. Not certain I want to go back to a module, but I'm always open. I'm not really looking to make any changes, but I did buy a lottery ticket this week, so who knows! smile
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#370892 - 08/21/13 09:23 AM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: montunoman]
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Don,

speaking of that demo, do you know the name of the brush bossa style that begins around 1:28?
Also, in the reggae style, is the sampled voice a part of the factory style?
Thanks
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#370907 - 08/21/13 02:48 PM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: Dreamer]
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Originally Posted By: Dreamer
Don,

speaking of that demo, do you know the name of the brush bossa style that begins around 1:28?
Also, in the reggae style, is the sampled voice a part of the factory style?
Thanks


The style name is simply Bossa Nova. The intro used is achieved when you start with a minor chord. The major intro is slightly different.
He seems to be getting those vocal samples of the Pads. Only style I've found that has much vocal sounds is Latin Vocal, and it is not this style.
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#370908 - 08/21/13 04:00 PM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: montunoman]
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Thanks smile
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#370967 - 08/23/13 04:51 AM Re: Korg PA600 vs PA 900 [Re: montunoman]
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If you find the DNC voices useful it may interest you to know that the 600 has a limited number of DNC (20) which are more or less equivalent in articulation to the Yamaha SA voices. However, the 900 has DNC voices (75 total) - some of which articulate like Yamaha SA2 voices. The benefit is that you're getting SA2-type voices in a Korg for thousands less than those in a T3 or T4.
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