Was wondering if any of you have any experience with the TC Helicon Voice tone Harmony-M and whether this small and budget unit is actually better than the built in unit on the Korg PA800.
Anyone being able to shed some more light on this, much appreciated !

Regards,
John

I actually had it for about three months.
I tried to use it with my Pa50, and for the harmonies guided by right hand was alright, but it had issues with understanding the left hand/accomp. I did not have Pa800, so I can not comment on that, but Harmony-M was not too bad at all.
So, that is why I'd like an onboard harmonizer - convenience and compatibility.

easily better quality sound then the inboard unit on the Pa800.

I had and used one for several years, mostly with BK7m and E50. It is a really good unit. Excellent voice processing. There are no fancy presets, but you can build your own easily. It's a good basic unit and did everything I asked it to do.
There was an OS upgrade that made the chord tracking much better.
DonM

If you are gonna use it with pa800 it will be just a waste of money.Pa800 has nice vocal processor.Plus you can make user scales too.

The Harmony-M sounds/works fine with excellent reverb/effects. The price dropped to < half of the initial price and is around € 120,- now.
I bought one to 'isolate' singing from the Tyros4 because the mic input is affected by the main-volume of T4.
Also like the basic user interface (no whistles and bells, screen menu's and countless presets) almost like the Korg iH.

Following this discussion, I realize that it is a great deal to get Harmony M for 120-130 euro now.
I payed about 300 when I bough it in 2008 and sold it soon after that for the same money.
I am thinking gettin another one now...

Got a fast and remarkably reply from someone at Helicon itself :

"...Dear John,

Thank you for contacting TC Helicon Support.

I'll be honest with you here - since we've never supported the PA800 or the Helicon functionality inside it, it's a bit hard to compare directly. But from what I've been able to dig up, it features functionality that's somewhere in between a Harmony-M and the higher-end VoiceLive 2.
This boils down to: you wouldn't be getting the full functionality of the PA800 with a Harmony-M...."

So if this is true it would be a waste of money, or so it seems...

regards,
John

I don't know.

I did not hear any great demo of how Pa800 (or Pa900 for that matter) deal with the Vocal Harmony in real life.
But I did hear Harmony M.

It's true the Harmony M only have 2 voices, only 10 presets, but the QUALITY is great.
Here's one or two links. Plus those on TC Helicon website.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXkV945OngQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hTZSkZ2kU8

Can anyone post something of Korg Pa800 or 900? Some real songs like these.
I honestly would like to be prove wrong that Harmony M is better!

I know it's a bit soon but all these were recorded on the Pa800 approx. 5 years ago.

https://app.box.com/shared/7eem58zl9k

Col

Thanks so much for these songs! Early might be, but I enjoyed every one! Appreciate it!

I've been posting 900 demos for weeks now ... trying to make peace with this thing. I'm almost convinced that I may have a bad unit ... it's so not what I am used to. Search Uncle Dave and you'll find the samples.

So Soon? Oh Boy, ... Bye Bye Bye!.... whats next BK9 with a TC voice live?

I know you have. I've commented on it.
I meant the videos on YouTube.

Donny - just STOP. There is no place in this performers setup for a BK9. You're dreaming. I'm going to make this one work ... or replace it with the same thing, if it's defective. Geeze .... what IS it with you and this BK9? Stop stirring the pot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave you know Fran is smiling .... & your NO Roland guy although when we first mets many years ago you were giggin a Roland..VA7 lol..kidding aside I hope down the road this unit works for you, ...good luck buddy!

Got to laugh at a Yamaha diehard baiting a Korg diehard to buy a Roland.

If the BK-9 is so good, Donny, only way you are going to convince anyone else is to use one yourself..

No? Didn't think so!

BK5 was enough Roland for me Diki....love the sound, weight, ...
hated the navigation, just not for my needs...no need to waste time with a BK9 which is in the same family....the S950 is more then enough arranger to suit my gigging needs every day.
The old Donny would have given it a shot but the NEW Donny is a different person now.

Not so different as to not bait other members about gear, LOL.

Donny, the BK-9 is a completely different beast to the BK-5. There's a lot more shortcuts for navigation, and there are four switches by the bend lever that can do most of what you might have missed from the front panel, plus an FC-7 input for 7 more functions immediately available.

Not to mention that the iPad apps make navigating and editing a breeze.

I have spent quite a bit of time on the BK-5 (friend had one and a BK-3, and I still have my BK-7m) and you can trust me, the BK-9 is a completely different beast. There's no way I would be so positive in my reviews of it if it had the same shortcomings that the BK-5 does. The action is FAR superior to the BK-5 (mind you, as an S950 owner, obvious that has no impact on your buying decision!) and navigating and operation are MUCH, much easier.

Not that you will be the slightest bit interested even if it was completely different, but it is!

You know how much I like the G70. With the iPad apps, the BK-9 is all likelihood going to replace the G70 for all but the most critical gigs I do (playing strange music with a strange band, and no advance warning as to what setups I'll need), and I have a feeling once I have the iPad and learned that well, it may end up totally replacing the G70 in the end.

I would definitely NOT be saying that about the BK-5.

It could be the best thong since sliced bread 76 keys is a deal breaker for me for a gigging KB. But I wish you good luck using yours out in the trenches. Give em hell!

76 keys at 5 lbs LIGHTER than your 61 note S950...

What's the issue... can't fit it into your Smart Car? LOL

... it is certainly not the best THONG since sliced bread!!! ...

Don't knock a sliced bread thong until you tried one!

Gary

That's the least of it,.....the Yamaha S950 Soundwise, Mutipads, SA voices, Mega Voices, Premium styles, VH2, Third party styles up the wazzoo,Great onboard speakers, ease of editing & navigation, lightweight, & support, lightning fast keyfeel, Mp3 player, makes for ME a killer sounding 61 gigging Arranger KB..