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#371295 - 08/29/13 10:40 AM
When I'm wrong ... I say I'm wrong...
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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I stole that quote from Jerry Orbach in "Dirty Dancing" and it fits the situation to a TEE. I hereby retract all my whining, complaining, outspoken criticisms of the PA900s TC vocal processor. It's such an eyeopener for a man of "seasoned" age to be reminded of the simple truths sometimes, and thanks to my dear friend Fran .... that's what has happened today. Listen up: ALL MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE TONE ARE RELATED TO THE UNBALANCED CABLE. I don't know how I missed that, because I used outboard preamps, in-line mixers and different mics with the same results. Today, I hooked up an impedance transformer to my EV 767a mic and BAM! it's clean. (I feel so stupid) I've never had that issue before, so I was reluctant to try it, but it's a 100% improvement. My sincere apologies to Korg and TC Helicon for my premature evaluation. (no nasty comments, please!) Sigh ... old dog, new trick learned. I'll fiddle with the settings and post an new audio demo this afternoon. As silly as I feel ... I'm also VERY EXCITED that I can use this thing the way I wanted to!!!!!!!!!! Yayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!! One quick thing I tried was to process only the harmonies through the dynamics section - it allows more natural expression from my lead signal, and with the impedance matching transformer - it's much, much cleaner. I'll make several records to confirm, but I'm SO RELIEVED that I found (rather FRAN found) the problem to my sonic woes. Whew. (Nobody puts Baby in a corner) LOL
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#371301 - 08/29/13 11:14 AM
Re: When I'm wrong ... I say I'm wrong...
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 1162
Loc: Oradea, RO
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Good, good, good! Now you post some to "repair" the error! Please try that one thing, with the hard panned harmonies and lead voice in the centre. And maybe you can do a harmony-only demo. I am curious how it sounds now, with the proper cable. Thanks!
Edited by adimatis (08/29/13 11:23 AM)
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#371309 - 08/29/13 11:55 AM
Re: When I'm wrong ... I say I'm wrong...
[Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
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Great singing, as always, Dave.
I must confess, not that impressed by the VH yet. But maybe that's just settings. I have to confess, I really don't like that big block harmony sound, even on some of the best standalone VH's, but that's mostly a musical choice. If you listen to most of the real groups that do that, you rarely hear them all block 100% of the time. If the harmonies don't split off now and again from the lead, it just sounds a bit contrived, to me.
I'd be a LOT more interested in what the VH does in the way of one female or one male tenor above your voice, or one up, one down and no doubling on the melody. That's probably a lot closer in voicing to 99% of all harmony background stuff out there. Block voicing is one thing, but one voice VH is the real test of whether it sounds real or not.
Looking forward to hearing some more. Your voice always makes me feel good!
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