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#371456 - 09/02/13 06:59 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
Dnj Offline
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Put down the Viagra fellas wink ....looks are deceiving ......
Instead, would love to hear her play though! dave no iPhone Video?.. headphone


Edited by Dnj (09/02/13 07:01 AM)

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#371458 - 09/02/13 07:33 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
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No magic, blue pills for me! Those old gals in the ER really put a hurtin' on ya when the 4-hour side effect wears off. wink

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#371465 - 09/02/13 08:48 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
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She didn't HAVE to play ... the visual was enough.
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I swear - there were more sexy women working at this place than I ever saw at one time EVER. Best looking women I ever saw all at once. I might have to rethink the whole redhead thing ... it's hard to concentrate there!
It wasn't really Diana, Donny.
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#371469 - 09/02/13 10:10 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Dnj]
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj

Instead, would love to hear her play though! dave no iPhone Video?.. headphone


... As I said to Gary in another thread "we are getting OLD" ... apparently some faster than others ...
She wouldn't have to play a note for ME !!! ... taz


Edited by tony mads usa (09/02/13 10:10 AM)
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#371485 - 09/02/13 01:36 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: tony mads usa]
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I know, Tony, but I keep forgetting why! drink
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#371490 - 09/02/13 04:35 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 10/27/03
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Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Korg builds the units themselves, and they told me that the 900 does, indeed have a similar unit to the 800. Could be better, but it's still WAY usable.


Thanks for the enlightenment Dave. So the harmonizer is more in line with the Pa-800 and not the same as the one in the PA3X. My hunch was correct. wink To be fair I've heard other Pa-900 vocal demos that sounded pretty good and I realize your demos were not commercially produced and were kind of spur of the moment type of thing and you hadn't had time to really experiment fully as far as what were the best settings and/or microphone to use. If you're saying it's a lot better than the Yammie s-950 harmonizer then I certainly respect your opinion.

I'll have to play the Pa-900 firsthand and then decide whether I would need an external unit. As I said in my previous post Korg and the others should step up to the plate and give customers a superb harmonizer because in the end it would result in more sales and would increase their own bottom line. Raise the price of the keyboards if they need to but including a stellar harmonizer is ultimately a win/win situation for both consumers and the manufacturers. Just like more realistic Drum Kits are a win/win situation also. Take the 'toy' out of the arranger and people will break down the doors to purchase them. Leave a few things to be desired e.g. vocal harmonizer, Drum Kits, key action, etc. and people may wind up looking elsewhere.

I'm glad you think the Pa-900 harmonizer is usable for live performances. The only harmonizer I consider superb right now is the Voice Live2 but were talking $750 and there's still quite a bit of room for improvement. But in the end that's what it may boil down to. I'll play the Pa-900 first before I decide one way or the other.

I hope Korg is listening. In fact if Yamaha produced a VH3 (Vocal Harmony 3) in collaboration with Digitech that could prove interesting too.

Thanks again for sharing those demos Dave. I've always said you probably have the best voice of all the members on this forum. Don Mason is another favorite.

All the best, Mike
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#371507 - 09/02/13 07:53 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Did I hear my name??? Thanks Mike, have another drink! It's an honor to be mentioned in the same thread as my favorite Uncle, crooner deluxe, lover of redheads and world-class picker.
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#371517 - 09/02/13 09:49 PM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
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Shux ... you guyzzzzzzzzzz.
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Hey Mike - try the VoiceLiveTouch2 - it's pretty amazing, although I have to admit - after the third consecutive night using the 900s internal only ... I'm finding that"happy place" - I have, however rethought my approach to harmony, since using the built in unit. I use more 1,2 and 3 voice combos now, instead of my 2,3 and 4 voice choices. Having the dedicated velel knob right on the KB is SUCH a great tool for on the spot blending ... as I get more comfy, I'm sure tweaks will become less neccisary, but there is always that moment when .... it just needs a little sumthin', and you have to be ready to do it fast. The 900 (as well as the 3x) gives my instant control of all the important stuf I may choose to change on the fly at any given moment. I'll post a list of these handy shortcuts soon, but here's the Readers Digest version:

1) Vocal effects knob always active - no menu search to go dry for talking - grab, turn, done
2) Chord sequencer - every now and then I record a small sequence of chords in cas I need to do something that requires more concentration - I hit the play button, and I can start putting out fires while the rhythm of the song continues on auto pilot.
3) Vocal harmony level knob always active too - instant blend
4) 3 assignable buttons SO CONVENIENT! Mine are set to 1-manual bass(Lower sound) 2-auto bass OFF 3-auto accpt tracks 1 thru 5 OFF
This allows me to jump in and out of different styles of play within a song - I can hit the manual bass for a unique intro and pop on the arranger to start the tune - I often leave the tracks 1-5 OFF for the 1st chorus of a song so I have more room to build. I LOVE that thinned out sound. Gives my Rhodes chord sounds more room to breath in the RH.
5) EASY, fast access to the mic EQ controls - such a pleasure to make quick adjustments as the room changes. During set 3 tonight, I had to add some mid-range to compensate for dynamic changes to the room when more people came in. HINT: touch the freq range you need to adjust and then, DONT LOOK AT THE DIL - just turn it till it SOUNDS right. Sometimes, we EQ with our eyes, instead of our ears. Bad habit. It's stuff like that, that makes or breaks a performance. Stay fresh and exciting all night ... no matter what the environment throws at ya. Physics is an evil mistress, and she don't care how she makes you crazy!

More later - it's late and school starts for me tomorrow morning!
Ciao!
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#371533 - 09/03/13 10:14 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Try using that CS a bit more, Dave...

A very common structure for a song is to sing the first verse and chorus, then repeat the verse for solos, and then sing the chorus to go out. Rather than just the short vamp sections, try recording the entire verse and chorus while you sing, then hit play, and off you go. Solo using the bender properly (not diving to it when you don't have a chord change to play), play a full piano solo, play more outside substitutions without freaking out the chord recognition, do a harmonica solo, anything you want. Because only the chords are recorded, there's still plenty of variety you can drag out of them.

Not to mention, there are a ton of things you can do with just a simple blues progression. 12 bars of playing the head's chords, then hours of fun jamming..!

It's a LOT more than a simple riff creator.
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#371536 - 09/03/13 10:42 AM Re: PA900 vocal harmony quick demos ... for [Re: Uncle Dave]
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Originally Posted By: Uncle Dave
Physics is an evil mistress, and she don't care how she makes you crazy!
Ciao!


... must be a redhead ... bounce
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