Very interesting the Yamaha T4 still holds top place and the Audya same price as the T4 rated at 17, people still buying T4 after all these years, I can feel a 5 coming anytime soon, then the forum will come alive again.


http://www.thomann.de/gb/prod_vrank~ncx.html?ar=207544

The Audya 5 @ #10 doesn't count?

Interesting as the other big retailer in Europe (Music Store) has the Korg and Audya on its top seller list but not the Tyros 4.

List here

In other news for those that don’t keep abreast of the Music side of things, (Arrangers are a miniscule part of the musical instrument market) DV247 is now owned by Music Store. (Yes, another British retailer is now in foreign hands)

Bill

Thanks Tony and Billy...it's much the same here in Atlantic Canada with the Tyros4 still selling very well, even though a Tyros5 is due soon. In fact, I helped a guy last week with his new Tyros4.

I was told Tyros4 sold better than Tyros, Tyros2 and Tyros3 put together which is, as Henni always says, "AWESOME".

The province that allegedly sells the most arrangers is Quebec. Strange, but they also lead the way in white grand pianos.

Ian

Thomann do not sell Roland arrangers at all... Kind of hard to take this 'ranking' seriously when one of the major players isn't even included.

Thomann do sell all the Rolland Arrangers, as does Music Store, so it’s perfectly valid.

Bill

Not listed on their website. They sell Roland synths, though. But apparently, only the Juno Gi.

Look under 'Entertainer' keyboards, where the other arrangers are... no Roland's at all

The Roland arrangers are in the Home Keyboard section, not the Entertainer Keyboard section, which is probably why they are not in the list.

Bill

Diki,

I think you have been well and truly Abacused, still the Roland range would be bottom of the pile certainly below Audya

Strange the Roland BK-9 ended up in the "home keyboard" section...didn't something similarly as stupid happen with Roland's G-70?

Ian

Bill Abacus might have won the battle but the war is still raging on and there's nothing like a wounded old warrior to turn the tables and Diki is a hardened foot soldier, Roland -V- Wersi
I know who my money is on, having said that Wersi have been down and out more times Sony Liston, but they are still crawling about on the floor

Why Bernie

Tony

What on earth are you on about (Yes I know you started the thread)

Apart from you, no one has even mentioned Wersi in the Thread so why bring up something that has no relevance. (The thread is about a sales chart)

As to battle, then I have just pointed out the relevant section where Roland arrangers are can be found, (It’s no different to posting a link for someone that cannot find what they are looking for) so again your comment has no relevance to the thread.

Bill

Yep,

Your right, perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned Wersi, no one else would, just thought I would give it a plug for you, not that you need any help, just me being thoughtful, I will try not to push the Wersi thingy again, you have my word

I just wondered why you mentioned Audya at #17, while Audya 5 is at #10.

No big deal. as my Audya is worth more to me than any of them.

Same difference... keys in that survey do not include the home keyboards for ranking. Be interesting to see how Roland would stack up if included.

Here is the total 'Keys' ranking... no MOTL or TOTL arranger in that list whatsoever... http://www.thomann.de/gb/topseller_taky.html

Cheap Yamaha's ($160 ones!) rule the roost... Maybe we are kidding ourselves when we think our market segment means anything to these guys one way or the other!

who cares about sales charts?.....just worry about what YOU like and what YOU are happy playing.

Best sellers here, at least to pros, and although we did sell quite a few Tyros models, were always the MOTL models, such as the S900, S910 and now S950 (and S750). It wasn't just keyboard players per se, but quite a number of vocalist/guitarists (solo acts) bought them as SMF players, whether it be commercial files, or songs recorded by themselves.

I have often been hired to record specific midi files that may have been popular local tunes or newer songs where commercial files weren't available.

I've also done private clinics to help the unfamiliar with how to operate or use for recording.

No one in the area uses a standalone midi file player/module because the PSR keyboards are relatively light, fairly small, and easily transported.

So it's not exclusively "keyboard" players that drive up the sales numbers.

Ian

Of course, you have to weight the numbers to dollar volume for obvious reasons, anyway.

LOL... wise words from the one person on our forum that has bought and sold nearly every arranger ever made!

Me, I've always pegged whether you are happy playing something by how LONG you play it for!

Had my trombone for 40 years..!

for me I invest in an instrument,......it makes me a profit, sell it, then move on to the next investment,...
it's a business.