Many people think that being your playing a keyboard of some kind that you are a Piano Player, they are two different instruments, IMO, & thinking shutting off the arranger section and playing full KB with just a few triads without styles running is NOT playing piano,....either your a true piano player both hands or not,..!!!! Playing arranger Kb is totally different than playing piano. I often play cocktail hours for weddings or affairs etc, doing the piano style background ting,...but, I do it my own way using styles & my arranger KB,because I am a professional Arranger KB player,....so many don't know the difference as the layman is unaware & I cant blame them.....what I do know is when I perform & sing with my arranger KB I do it very well. I am NOT a trained piano player, left hand full keyboard playing is a different animal then spit KB playing.....both have their strengths for sure,..it's just how you were trained growing up. Starting out as a kid on Accordion is the difference between the two,....sometimes I wish I could learn to play jazz chords using my left hand but I'm too lazy & busy for that at this time, other times I don't & just do my thing and enjoy playing music in my own way as if I'm in a 5-6 pc band all by myself on my Arrangers,..
So to recap Piano is PIANO.....& ARRANGER is Arranger playing...

I have the same affliction Donny, So ... my SD1 Plus;

Not an affliction jerry but a great talant!!

Accordion players seem to be the most adept at adapting to arrangers, and of course, many still use "the squeezebox" (with midi) to control an arranger keyboard or module.

That's quite a rig you have there Jerry...how many bass buttons?

Ian

But I can play many other instruments...... I just don't like piano versus some of the others..... like drums, presentation, guitar, bass...... piano seems boring to me Imo

Hey, count me in as an avid arranger player. Of all the keyboards I've owned and played, the arranger now ranks at the top.

I especially like the independence it gives me, in regards to when, where, and what I want to play.

The early instruments were crude, but today's arrangers are extremely flexible and can be personalized to fit whatever your little keyboard playin' heart desires.

Ian

I couldn't hold a job in a ten-dollar whorehouse playing piano. Wish I could play one, but I don't wish it enough to spend the time and practice necessary at this advanced age. I used to play drums, guitar, organ and trumpet, all pretty well, but haven't touched any of them much in too many years. I love arrangers.
DonM

Donny... It's boring until you learn how to do it... then it is a lifetime of enjoyment!

But the main reason to learn it, like anything else, is to broaden your choices of how you play. Just as learning the guitar improves your ability to emulate it well, or playing a horn helps with your lines and phrasing on the arranger, learning the piano helps you play pianistically, when you need to do it..!

You've often mentioned you don't like to use sustain pedals... But you really can't play piano properly without one (you can say otherwise, but all you are doing is choosing passages that CAN be played without one, not playing anything you want), and learning the piano will give you a big leg up on that.

The minute you cut yourself off from a whole sector of keyboard types (and, TBH, the largest and most influential sector, at that!) you start to limit yourself.

Not to mention, the increased workload for the LH (lets face it, accordion and arranger playing hardly gives the LH much of a workout!) of playing full piano parts makes a radical difference in what you can do on a keyboard. Much is made of the transition that accordion players make to arrangers, but I believe this is primarily because you simply have moved from one type of keyboard that under-uses the LH to another! But start using MP3's, loops, or SMF's, take away the need to do simple changes with your LH, and you can really start to USE that LH!

I have always tried to develop a style that was TWO RH's, not a RH and a lesser LH. That way, both hands can play something quite important to the piece, and remove the need for more automatic playing, but I really doubt I would have ever been able to do this without having studied piano... Nothing else really works your LH the way the piano does!

Certainly not an arranger!

A few years ago I was offered a VERY lucrative job playing a Yamaha Grand at a piano bar at a local casino five nights a week, four hours a night. I accepted.
I borrowed a digital piano, with fully weighted action so I could learn enough left hand stuff to get by. I had a month to get my chops together. How hard could it be? The right hand was no problem and I had plenty of help with learning what to do with the left hand. After all, I would just be playing easy stuff for people to sing along. Technically, it was quite doable, but physically, my hands just would not hold up to the action. After a week, I couldn't even open and close my fingers. So I called and backed out of the deal.
Arthritis is even a little worse now, but it still doesn't bother me playing light action. Even the PA3X may have to go soon in favor of the S950 because it looks like I'm going back to work on a more regular basis again. We'll see how the phalanges hold up.
DonM

I enjoy playing any keyboard instrument...but it has to be a quality instrument..Accordions that I have owned were high quality that played well..when I play a cheap accordion, I have to put it down..

Organs...a Hammond A, B or C model ..I enjoy..If I played my old Wurlitzer organ...yuck

The most part acoustic pianos that are maintained..all work well with me...sure I have had my favorites..a Baldwin and a Samick were on my top of the list..

Electric Pianos are the easiest to like/play..most are good (Quality is still a must)..

Arrangers are the hardest to be fond of...Quality is a main concern...probably because it is my favorite choice..for much more than "arranger" play...the do it all concept makes it my choice.

All keyboards are different, in that you need a different mindset and technique...most folks do not have the patience to do so..I can make myself comfortable on any.....for a short while