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#376004 - 11/22/13 08:04 AM
Re: The open arrangers
[Re: Bachus]
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Loc: English Riviera, UK
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Now the Wersi name is under professional ownership (Music Store) they are starting to get the open system back on track, with the New Sonic having pretty much everything anybody could wish for, and in standard mode can still be used effectively by the OOTB (Easy Play) users out there, however switch to Expert mode and it effectively becomes a Workstation. (According to the details published so far all he sounds and styles for it have been done by professional musicians, programmers and style designers, which is something Wersi could never afford when it was on its own) Full details here As to whether the Sonic will filter down into just a keyboard (Which without its organ incumbents should theoretically be able to be produced for a similar price as a TOTL Arranger) is unknown at present, however I would be surprised if they didn’t. (Fingers crossed) The Pegasus Wing was designed to compete with the Easy Play Arranger market, (Press a button and everything is done for you) which it does well (It’s also way cheaper than the TOTL Arrangers from Ketron, Yamaha etc.) and still retains the full upgradability of the OAS system. (If demand was proved there is no reason all the professional features couldn’t be added to it) The current organ system (Introduced in 2000) is also still going with continual improvements. (Unlike the old days when features were added whether they were needed or not, Music Store makes sure the update gives a much improved experience) Bill
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#376008 - 11/22/13 08:28 AM
Re: The open arrangers
[Re: Bachus]
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Loc: Oradea, RO
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Eventually, that is the future.
I don't know for instance how close vArranger is to be using complex VSTi sound modules, but as many other examples, the technology will lead us to using smaller and smaller devices, for more and more powerful applications. Everything goes software. Arrangers cannot be an exception, it's just that for now the big R&D departments seems to still prefer going the old verified route - maybe they actually try to get the most of it, before jumping to the future.
Fact is, the VSTi have developed to a level where 10 years ago not many believed they will. Progress I guess. It is a shame the arrangers wouldn't take advantage, but I realize it's a titanic task to actually write the code needed for this. Maybe not even possible for now... but it will come.
That will happen when big companies will take it on board. The small companies cannot really produce the change, I don't think. Unless their product ends up in Big companies portfolio.
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#376013 - 11/22/13 08:46 AM
Re: The open arrangers
[Re: abacus]
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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Now the Wersi name is under professional ownership (Music Store) they are starting to get the open system back on track, with the New Sonic having pretty much everything anybody could wish for, and in standard mode can still be used effectively by the OOTB (Easy Play) users out there, however switch to Expert mode and it effectively becomes a Workstation. (According to the details published so far all he sounds and styles for it have been done by professional musicians, programmers and style designers, which is something Wersi could never afford when it was on its own) Full details here As to whether the Sonic will filter down into just a keyboard (Which without its organ incumbents should theoretically be able to be produced for a similar price as a TOTL Arranger) is unknown at present, however I would be surprised if they didn’t. (Fingers crossed) The Pegasus Wing was designed to compete with the Easy Play Arranger market, (Press a button and everything is done for you) which it does well (It’s also way cheaper than the TOTL Arrangers from Ketron, Yamaha etc.) and still retains the full upgradability of the OAS system. (If demand was proved there is no reason all the professional features couldn’t be added to it) The current organ system (Introduced in 2000) is also still going with continual improvements. (Unlike the old days when features were added whether they were needed or not, Music Store makes sure the update gives a much improved experience) Bill I think there is definately a market for a new Abacus, as long as it gets the attachable 76 keyboard pro option and a big 18" touchscreen and full open VST support (instruments and effects) and upgradable hardware and an option to import user created styles for other keyboards and some knobs to turn around and a few free assignable buttons (but thats my personal petpeeve)
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#376015 - 11/22/13 09:00 AM
Re: The open arrangers
[Re: Bachus]
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Registered: 09/21/00
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#376023 - 11/22/13 09:17 AM
Re: The open arrangers
[Re: Bachus]
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Wow! The Wersi Sonic is only £15,999.  A couple of decent gigs should cover that nicely...  Ian thats quite ignorant ian, both you and me know its a home organ not intended for gigging, and they must be compared to the roland attelier organs price range and not to arranger keyboards and you failed to read that the Wersi TOTL arranger Pegasus Wings only costs half a Tyros 5. Not ignorant, Bachus, just sarcasm...the latter is so useful, because simply arguing with people isn't nearly as much fun.  What amazes me, is the lack of interest in these instruments (including the Pegasus) here on SZ. The Wersi forum has all the excitement of "mother's day in an orphanage".  Ian
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