Yes, I heard that too. That was a shocker to be hoenst.



Yes, very unlikely. The library I made was only ever installed on the XR, and Live-styler wouldn't have ever received one of those units. I never made anything for the keyboards.



Yes indeed. Most of the sounds from Exs90 for the KRONOS can be found in the XR.



What was at Messe was a pretty darn early prototype that wasn't even a fraction of the unit that existed in the final days. The sound library wasn't even fully installed at Messe as it wasn't complete. Most of the front panel buttons and screen did nothing too.

Where in the final days before the project was hauled, the XR was running a OS infinitely better than the keyboards, the sound library was completed, and everything was working. All that was required was one hardware change for a quite PSU, and agreements on project management and structure for future support and development. Sadly, some people don't like being told what to do for their own good though.

Regards
James

Thanks Dan.



lol... No point. I've fished her engagement ring from the bathroom sink plug hole too many times.



Ok, thank you.
That poses a problem for me. If everything must load to RAM, and your software is 32Bit, then it will have a memory address limitation of 3GB.

Thanks for the information. It would simply make more sense for me to send the midi note data to a separate program in this case as I do prefer and trust streaming.

My very tempted. Looks like a great program.

Kind regards
James.

So basically Bill are you saying that any media station user can buy any software and integrate it seamlessly on the media station? That was not my understanding and was one of the primary reasons that people went with the media station because they believed that any software integration would be done for them by Dom and released as a free upgrade . Then it turned out that even the software dom had put on the media station would not work as it had been advertised !

And lastly I don't know any gem or technic's customers that bought the keyboard on the promises that the keyboard would be for ever upgraded for free . unfortunately some of the media stations were sold on the specific promise that it would be a guaranteed a lifetime upgrade free from from Dom. At the time I challenged the validity of such a promise. It was dishonest and I called Dom out on this because of his previous behaviour. I also warned other potential business partners not to get involved with Dom because of his duplicity . Unfortunately the sun it was a very costly lesson .....Anyway I will keep this thread clean and step away from the subject . Fran is right that most people could not handle the media station nor any other open arranger unless all the work was done for them and subsequently .

You can integrate most things yourself if you have advanced Linux knowledge... Tough a lot vsts are still not compatible with Linux even if you have wine..

With mediastation Linux getting older, it will be much harder to add newer vsts, the older it gets the more compatibillity issues with newer software are to be expected..

Thanks James for the MS update, trust you are OK and nice to see you posting.

Tony

BTW how many open arrangers are there on the market? Obviously discounting MS.

All in ones, none that I am aware of

Arranger software that can be installed on a laptop or standard computer using a Midi Controller, about 4

Hope this helps

Bill

Open arrangers are build around arranger software...

There currently are OMB, live-styler and Varranger.. Most people use mastrrkeyboards in combination with a standard PC, and other midi controllers... But obviously Varranger is kind of moving away from being open by restricting peoples freedom just to prevent them from making mistakes and running intoo stabillity issues.

Actually i dont think there is nothing available that would honor the name open arranger to the fullest

Open arrangers should be an open source project, where hobby sound engineers and hobby hadware specialists and hobby programmers work together in order to create an open arranger ...

Sadly this would require dozens of people to work in teams together... Because creating programs, high quallity sounds and styles from scratch takes an enourmous pile of work.

You could also choose to create an arranger, that has soundsets that can import style files of the current arrangers and has specific soundsets that mirror all of the great arrangers, this could be easier, but it would be less legal, and its what Varranger and live-styler try to accomplish, obviously time has proven that the results are so far less stellar then the prebuilt totl arrangers of the big brands... In the end this will only result in a cheeper way to play arranger but at a lower quallity.


The only true way is by starting from scratch with an arranger that surpasses anything currently on the market in innovative features and sound quallity. Build the arranger software, then build a soundset based for instance on NI complete and start slowly expanding the the spund database with sounds required by the styles.

Have another team create the hardware, as a build it yourself keyboard around pc hardware, big touchscreen a good keybed and a dedicated piece of hardware with controlls..

Would not be a cheep solution, mind that, komplete is $1000, pc hardware, would be another $800 soundcard €300 dedicated keybed and controll hardware $700. Big touchscreen $200. Lets say $3000 , And you can start building from there...


But it could end with the best arranger ever... You could also choose a free sample player instead of komplete, but that would net in a lower starting quallity.

James, vArranger can load up to 4GB of samples.
How much sample do you have?
Do you have any demos of your sounds?