"Honestly so very close" all around, ...........
makes you wonder,.....

Donny, they are very close, but even with my aging ears I could hear some significant differences in overall sound quality. The T5 definitely had more depth in the grand piano sound. Same held true with the electric piano. There seemed to be a distinct difference in clarity with the guitars and string demos as well. There was a definite, big change in the tenor sax sound.

Gary

They are very close ...and you can always EQ sound to your tastes ...Tyros 5 is an amazing instrument for sure......comparisons are always a good thing. Then again what you hear in demos, or your living room, etc, vs what you would hear in a stage mix performance is a very different story.All these arrangers are phenomenal to create music, the player is the reason.

They are too close in the areas important to me, for me to be tempted.

The only reason I would get a Tyros5 is if I needed 76 keys, but, for my way of playing, which is arranger style play, 61 keys are just right.

As far as sounds go, I've got lots of excellent sounds to work with already on my Tyros4...judicious use of the T4's effects and filter/brightness can give me what I want.

Ian

The two tenor saxophones are indeed clearly different, but the first (T4) one seems to be a "breathy sax", the second one a "hard sax", so did they really compare the equivalent voices?
The grand pianos only have minimal differences IMO, I'm sure they both use the same CFIII sample already used in the Motif XS and MOX, it has the typical bright sound. I heard considerable improvements in the church organ and some guitars.

Wow ..what an eye opener in this comparison..

I think I prefer the Tyros4 in this sound comparison..

Clearly..you can tell the samples for the most part are similar, but the Tyros5 is swamped with effects..to a point they are over done..

Initially, when I heard the first demos, the overall sound was better on the Tyros5...thanks in part to mastering and new effects..

This gave the guitars a great sound (amp similators)..


The Tyros4 is clearer..the Tyros5 lost it's clarity..Clarity was not a strong point with Yamaha to start with...

Listening to other demos of the Tyros5, the effects on the "ensemble" drove me crazy with the pulsating volume and attack...virtually useless in any music application ..live..

You folks with Tyros4's better rethink your "upgrade" to the Tyros5.
This comparison can only hurt sales for that company..they must have a lot of Tyros4 to move out.

It's way too close to call . The eq settings were clearly different on the acoustic pianos . The electric pianos were just awash with effects and the drums sounded like different kits not better or worse . The acoustic guitars were the stand out instruments on the T5 to my ears and maybe the saxes. Was not that impressed with the ensemble voices to be honest . I think right now the T4 is a bargain compared to the T5

I would have expected the T5 to have both major grand piano waveforms the Motif XF has, the old CFIII one, which sounds a bit like pop piano all the time, and the newer more "wooden" sounding S6 sample. But obviously Yamaha expects customers to get those samples extra for the flash board.

As a Korgie, I think I can be classed as a neutral (not neutered:)) in a T4/T5 shootout. I have to agree with Fran in general, and Rosetree's assessment of the sax comparison. Also, given the extra money to be shelled out, I'd be sticking with a T4.