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#377171 - 12/05/13 08:30 AM
Re: Technical expertise or musicianship?
[Re: captain Russ]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Andrea, I didn't know you were also into photography. What seemed like another lifetime ago I was a full time, freelance, outdoor writer and wrote outdoor columns for 25 publications, many of which, unfortunately are now gone. As such, I had to provide my publishers with photos for each article. Much of what I learned was from good friend and mentor Lefty Kreh, whom I consider among the world's greatest photographers. Lefty Kreh Just as with the keyboard, it's the person behind the lens that makes the difference. I believe you do yourself an injustice when it comes to music - IMO you ARE a great player, and your technical expertise is second to none. Cheers, Gary
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#377175 - 12/05/13 09:01 AM
Re: Technical expertise or musicianship?
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Senior Member
Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
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Andrea, I didn't know you were also into photography. What seemed like another lifetime ago I was a full time, freelance, outdoor writer and wrote outdoor columns for 25 publications, many of which, unfortunately are now gone. As such, I had to provide my publishers with photos for each article. Much of what I learned was from good friend and mentor Lefty Kreh, whom I consider among the world's greatest photographers. Lefty Kreh Just as with the keyboard, it's the person behind the lens that makes the difference. I believe you do yourself an injustice when it comes to music - IMO you ARE a great player, and your technical expertise is second to none. Cheers, Gary Gary, what can I reply to words like these? Like you, I have always liked to travel and my cameras were the tools I relied on to collect my memories; on my website there is a collection of pictures taken through the years ( here and here and here, if you are curious) and now that things have changed I look at them and am happy that at least have places like those to remember. I have seen on Wikipedia that your friend Lefty Kreh is considered THE authority on fly fishing: how cool is that? And you are really too kind; I, on the other hand, tend always to see what I could do to improve myself, in every possible way. I would really love to record a new song to share with you and all the other Synthzone friends. I hope to do that during the Christmas Holidays. All the best Andrea
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#377203 - 12/05/13 10:49 PM
Re: Technical expertise or musicianship?
[Re: captain Russ]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Thanx for the shout, Russ ... I admit, I used to be WAY more into "stuff", but these past few years, since I started teaching ... I have shifted more thana few priorities. The thing I miss most about my old life was the extra hours I had to enjoy hanging out with my posse (Fran and Donny) - breakfast, road-trips, retail therapy sessions .... we had a great time. Now my days are filled with wide eyed (on a GOOD day) teens who eat up my every word as we share the "sound of music" together. (BTW - the Live TV broadcast tonight with Carrie Underwood was an embarrassment. She's terrible .... sang in bad keys, tried to "fluff up some runs", bad acting, terrible diction. She's a novice on a real stage. Next to Audra McDonald, she looked like a "Doe, a deer" in the headlights, but I digest ...) I've never been a clinician, or a "player's" player, but I do pride myself on having the right "feel" for what I try to sell. I treat my voice as the main ingredient, then bass, piano (usually Rhodes) and drums next ... in THAT order. I can play all night long with those three elements under my lead vox and not get bored. I certainly love all the bells and whistles that the newer gear packs, and I USE alot of it, but my staple, bread & butter sound has been, and always will be: Voice, Rhodes, bass, and drums. Arrangers, MP3's sequences ... all icing on my musical cake. Maybe someday, I'll learn a few of those prettier chords that Russ and Boo like to use - you know, the ones that AREN'T really in the songs ... (smile), but for now, it simply is a poor use of my time to invest any more "tech time" into my rig or my act. I know hundreds (thousands, maybe) of tunes, I adapt quickly, get loads of referral business, and manage to enjoy myself in the process. Win/win, right? So, thanx, Russ ... nice to be thought of from time to time. Love to come visit again real soon ... if you ever get a real coffee shop out there in horsey-town. Don - you're right ... there are not too many major brands that I haven't tried. Wersi and Tyros are the only two big-boys that I never wanted. Chocolate and Vanilla, I guess. Peace, all.
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#377234 - 12/06/13 08:06 AM
Re: Technical expertise or musicianship?
[Re: Ensnareyou]
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Registered: 11/12/08
Posts: 2447
Loc: Bluffton/Hilton Head SC USA
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Ensnareyou
You got it. today if anyone can half a** carry a tune, even in a bucket, they're out there doing there thing with canned backing. Very little dedication to learning a craft or talent involved. Actually an easier gig then being a good DJ. Your also correct in that the really great ones have some sort of innate talent that no amount of practice can equal. IE: one of my favorites Erroll Gardner. Couldn't read a note. How about Art Tatum, where did all that come from ? LOL 1 The list goes on.
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#377250 - 12/06/13 09:16 AM
Re: Technical expertise or musicianship?
[Re: captain Russ]
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Senior Member
Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
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Errol Garner couldn't read a note... but he happened to have perfect pitch, which means that you hear a note and can instantly name it (C, Eb, Bb, etc) or even correctly identify all the notes within a chord. Pretty useful when you are trying to learn a song and don't have a music sheet or maybe want to transcribe a solo. I haven't had such a luck and so, when I started playing the guitar (around 15 years), spent hours with my ear glued to the gramophone to understand what the guy was playing exactly; I even slowed down the speed from 33 to 16 rpm, but of course the pitch went down as well... Today we have transcriptions and all kind of pitch-shifting devices, but I still get frustrated when I am playing a song and then try a little improvisation but soon run out of ideas or my fingers refuse to play what I hear in my brain, and then I regret not having had a proper education in music, so I could at least play all those scales up and down the keyboard. But here again technology helps: I can record a track at a time, correct my mistakes redoing small bits instead of the whole song and finally come to a result that leaves me somehow satisfied. The most difficult part has been stopping regretting not to be a better player and instead accepting my own limits: within those limits music has given me a lot of pleasure and, when I am deep immersed in the arranging process, often come up with musical ideas that really surprise myself. I consider this a gift from the Heavens and can only guess what kind of elation must give composing a whole song, especially one of those timeless classics that we still enjoy to play.
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