I will be visiting a demo of Tyros 5 tomorrow by Peter Baartmans, if anyone has questions that he would like to ask, then i will be happy to ask them for you...

Please ask him if he has ever done or likely to do an album of jazz arrangements whether solo piano or arranger style . I would buy it .

ask him when the new S series unit is coming out...?

Isnt that allways about 2 years after the Tyros release ?

Nothing set in stone ...let us know his reply.
Thanx

Ask him why it is the USA is always last to get product/demos etc....I know we don't buy as many as Europe, but it makes us think Yamaha couldn't care less about us. IMHO they need to fix this issue.
Lee

How quickly we forget the Tyros 3 and 4 delivery dates. Europe got their Tyros 3's weeks before the US did. With Tyros 4 it was the complete opposite..............

Actually 99% of all products get to the US of A before they are released in europe..

Thats because its logistically obviously not possible to support europe and the USA at the same time.

Look at apple products, playstation, Xbox, games, movies, synth workstations... all these things are released in the US first, because of the bigger market

And now there is a single product comming first to europe and later to the US because our market is bigger..

Well, i am not going to ask, why finally a company made a good desigen for europe, now stop whining like little kids and get used to what allways happens to us europeans.



Now please some meaningfull questions about the product, and not logistic questions that Baartmans in no way can or is allowed to asnwer.

Will the T5 support lower keyboard and pedals as well or better than T4 did?
If I get one that is what I need to implement.
Thanks,
Lee

Lee,

You can't always be first over there, it doesn't work that way and like you say your not a big player, its all about Europe now not the U S of A, and the demos you get them the same time as we do on Youtube, just have a little patience, I played one about 4 weeks back you will love it when you get yours I think this one will be a keeper for a long time, good luck with it, I will get mine after Christmas.

We all know that it will be a keeper for about 2 or 3 years till the next Tyros arives...

Please realize Peter is 'just' the demoist and he is not responsible for logistics/sales/distibution.
Not even Martin Harris probably can answer these kind of Q's.

If they know something.... or all... they will not tell the complete truth. As I met Martin he said : "The Tyros4 will be the last Tyros, his successor's name will be different!"
So... ;-)

there is many things they can not and will not talk about.
For example they are not allowed to talk where the samples they use come from (not naming any brand names)

They are also probably not allowed to talk about any upcoming expansions and styles as they are not set in stone..

Well, anyway, i am off leaving the office and on my way to an early diner and then to the Demo.

Tony, Not really about over there, over here....I like to think of us all as one arranger group. I guess I'm still mad at Yamaha for pulling the organs from here (later there too). Just venting a little I guess, I'm over it now!.

Thanks for the encouragement about the T5...I an very excited to see how superb they sound.

This thread is about questions for Baartmans..so here is one.

Will Yamaha make all the upgrade's (sound/style packs) available on T5 that are for T4??

Thanks,
Lee

I was at the demo tonight and am pretty excited, both Baartmans and the T5 where pretty awesome. Everything sounded better then the T4, because of the new effects session. Not only the instruments but also the VH2 ( that didnt change) sounded better then the T4. Personally i think the improved effects session is the single most important change in the T5. It makes styles, songs, sounds and your singing sound better. And even a guitar connected trough the mic input sounds awesome with the lovely guitar amp effects.

The only adition to the style section where the audio styles, which where great. The sound selection got a lot of new sounds however.

There where many many new E piano sounds, and some new accoustic pianos, from the cvp 609 however only the new upright piano made it to the T5, Baartmans admitted the T5 could use a new grand, which only confirmed my suspicion that there might be an accoustic piano sound expansion comming out.

There where also 7 new SA2 voices, which doesnt sound much untill you realise how much work a single new SA2 sound means as it is much. Much more then just a new set of samples.


Organs : B3, allen home organ, Wersi, wurlitzer and a brand new build mercator churchorgan from poland. Espescially the church organ sounded really really majestic.. Sounded great espescially combined with the new organ styles.

I however was most interested in the ensemble section, it sounded great, and however you can not create your own ensembles, you can eddit the excisting ensembles... You can change settings like pitch, attack, decay for each of the individual instruments, this way you can make an ensemble sound more layd back or alive. The good thing is that you have full controll over the ensemble, and every time you playthe same notes it sounds exactly the same unlike sometimes with the Sa2 sounds its much less dependent on timing.. The result of this feature is incredible... And there is no other instrument that has this feature except for tyros 5 ( tough it would be possible to program it yourself in certain vsts) all instruments in the ensemble section are espescially sampled for the section and not usable anywhere else.

There are currently no plans for a bigger memory expansion, and neither Peter nor de Yamaha sales manager could answer the question if it would be technically possible.

Adding a 2nd keybed and peddals works in exactly the same way as on the T4

In february there will not only be a mac version available for the expansion manager, but also several other ipad apps and an ipad stand that can be connected to the T5

Sample size is the same size as on the T4, also the expansions should be the same size for T4 and T5. The only new expansion so far is the Alpen expansion. He could not tell what other exoansions where comming up.

There was a wayting list for Tyros 5, at this dealer in Holland, for a new T5 -76 this could end up for a couple of months, not all pre orders had been delivered yet, the yamaha sales manager could not answer questions about it either.


So was it all shiney and glamorous ? No, as said, the accoustic piano sounds should have had an update and the new SA2 flutes sounded a bit shrill, but nothing that could not be helped out with some edditing and effects ( the effects themselves are all highly edditable) And their choice of instruments names is still not to my liking... A stratocaster should be named a stratocaster and a wersi should be named wersi and not euro organ. Audio styles is only drums.

On top of that many pro features we see on other brands still havent made their way to the Tyros world.