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#379319 - 12/24/13 12:16 PM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: tony mads usa]
Diki Registered: 04/25/05 Posts: 14282 Loc: NW Florida	Yeah... I do all that. Basically, I just try the high section, and see what is comfortable (or controllable, at least!) and go from there. Overall, last couple of years I have started to take everything down a half-step or so, to adjust for my aging vocal chords. It's easy enough when I'm solo (just transpose the entire arranger down a half step for the whole night), but it's a PITA for any guitarists working with me! _________________________ An arranger is just a tool. What matters is what you build with it..!
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#379323 - 12/24/13 12:31 PM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: Diki]
tony mads usa Senior Member Registered: 01/16/02 Posts: 14376 Loc: East Greenwich RI USA	... I am SO with you on that ... I have a gig the end of January with the sax player from our band from a hundred years ago ... I KNOW some of the changed keys are going to drive him crazy ... _________________________ t.
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#379330 - 12/24/13 01:37 PM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: tony mads usa]
travlin'easy Senior Member Registered: 12/08/02 Posts: 15576 Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA	No transpose button on a sax, but a guitar has a capo - handy little gadget that I used for years until I learned more than 3 chords. Gary _________________________ PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff! K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#379360 - 12/25/13 01:26 AM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: Hal2001]
Mark79100 Senior Member Registered: 10/23/06 Posts: 1661 Loc: USA	Originally Posted By: Hal2001 "Don't compare yourself to performances you've heard as recordings." Instead, I should use live performances as a benchmark because even some well known performers who claim they don't clean up their mistakes in the studio, actually do so Thanks for posting this Hal. I've often wondered how pianists record whole piano concertos without missing a note........that's how! They patch it up in the studio when needed! That certainly changed some things for me! Mark
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#379361 - 12/25/13 01:37 AM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: tony mads usa]
Mark79100 Senior Member Registered: 10/23/06 Posts: 1661 Loc: USA	Originally Posted By: tony mads usa One thing thing I have to remember - which no doubt causes some trepidation in posting a performance on this forum - is that here, I am performing for other musicians who are going to listen with a much more critical ear than my usual audiences Another thing is that when we perform 'live' we may miss a chord or a note and it MAY go unnoticed to most in the audience, as they are listening to the overall performce ... but here, if something doesn't sound just right, the listener may very well listen again and again - and hear that same mistake over and over ... "That being said", I think it would be great if more people started posting some of their work ... Tony, This was a really good point you made. Especially the part... Originally Posted By: tony mads usa "I think it would be great if more people started posting some of their work" I was playing around with the recorder on my PA3x and recorded Under Paris Skies in one take. Of course, there were 1-2 mistakes that an audience would never notice, but I figured here it might be ripped apart (especially by a certain member) as the notes would stand out in listening mode. By coincidence, I was talking to Don yesterday, and I asked him to post it to the Korg forum to show how a PA3x can emulate an accordion. With what you said here, I suppose there's no harm in asking Don to host the song here too. Mark
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#379366 - 12/25/13 03:58 AM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: tony mads usa]
DonM Senior Member Registered: 06/25/99 Posts: 16735 Loc: Benton, LA, USA	Mark, I didn't get the song yet. _________________________ DonM
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#379374 - 12/25/13 07:18 AM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: tony mads usa]
cgiles Senior Member Registered: 09/29/05 Posts: 6703 Loc: Roswell,GA/USA	Ok, I was fooling around with the drums on the BK7M looking for some semi-jazz/groove patterns to practice to. I have come to like them (BK drums) even more than my Alesis DM10 Pro electronic drum kit; in fact, I have even started to use it as a sound source for the kit about 50% of the time. I also love 60's-style 'fatback' organ, which is loosely a very simple blues-type bassline coupled with a kind of 'back-beat' drums to form a kind of 'pocket' type groove. The BK7M has several good drum styles for this, along with good ootb drum voices. I was just noodlin' around on my organ (KeyB Duo MK111) and decided to record an example. I overdubbed some guitar from the T2 (Jazz Guitar) and horns from the BK7m. Just noodlin' but based loosely on the tune 'Summertime'. A few clunkers since I'm way too lazy to go back and correct anything. Just posted it as an example of how good (and easy) Arrangers can be as stand-alone drum machines and/or sound modules for solo voices. I was too lazy to put a compressor on it so you'll need to listen through headphones or a set of monitors to catch the bass, which is key to the style. And yeah, I know it's in Dm instead of Am, but I was playing 'Feeling Good' or something and just sort of migrated into it. chas https://app.box.com/s/7lwdtg0rbwnvndrc73hm _________________________ "Faith means not wanting to know what is true." [Nietzsche]
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#379377 - 12/25/13 07:49 AM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: cgiles]
Dnj Senior Member Registered: 09/21/00 Posts: 43703	Originally Posted By: cgiles Ok, I was fooling around with the drums on the BK7M looking for some semi-jazz/groove patterns to practice to. I have come to like them (BK drums) even more than my Alesis DM10 Pro electronic drum kit; in fact, I have even started to use it as a sound source for the kit about 50% of the time. I also love 60's-style 'fatback' organ, which is loosely a very simple blues-type bassline coupled with a kind of 'back-beat' drums to form a kind of 'pocket' type groove. The BK7M has several good drum styles for this, along with good ootb drum voices. I was just noodlin' around on my organ (KeyB Duo MK111) and decided to record an example. I overdubbed some guitar from the T2 (Jazz Guitar) and horns from the BK7m. Just noodlin' but based loosely on the tune 'Summertime'. A few clunkers since I'm way too lazy to go back and correct anything. Just posted it as an example of how good (and easy) Arrangers can be as stand-alone drum machines and/or sound modules for solo voices. I was too lazy to put a compressor on it so you'll need to listen through headphones or a set of monitors to catch the bass, which is key to the style. And yeah, I know it's in Dm instead of Am, but I was playing 'Feeling Good' or something and just sort of migrated into it. chas https://app.box.com/s/7lwdtg0rbwnvndrc73hm Nice job on the jam Chas...
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#379387 - 12/25/13 10:40 AM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: tony mads usa]
DonM Senior Member Registered: 06/25/99 Posts: 16735 Loc: Benton, LA, USA	Great music Chas! I really like the BK7m drums and bass a lot and there are also some great lead sounds and styles on it. I always said if they made a keyboard version of it that I'd buy one. Of course they did with the BK9, but I'm really happy with what I have for the moment so didn't go there. Excellent right hand! I always do Summertime in Dm because it fits my vocal range. I'm hearing the bass just fine over the Logitechs. _________________________ DonM
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#379423 - 12/25/13 06:39 PM Re: Posting a performance on S-Z [Re: DonM]
tony mads usa Senior Member Registered: 01/16/02 Posts: 14376 Loc: East Greenwich RI USA	chas ... WELCOME BACK !!! ... another gem for my iPOD 'Jazz Playlist' ... no problem at all hearing the bass - in fact I had to lower the woofer volume on my desktop PC speakers ... BTW ... I have a number of S-Zers performances on my iPOD ... _________________________ t.
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