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#381889 - 01/19/14 01:13 AM
Re: Maria Elena Tyros 5 Rico
[Re: Diki]
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BTW, one feature I've yet to see on arrangers that would be way cool is, if you pick say a piano to play, the arranger automatically mutes the style piano Part. Ditto for horns, organs, whatever.
Generally, YOU play it, you don't need the arranger playing it too! But you never know what sound you feel like using, if you are just improvising, so you can't set the arranger's Part Mute up for it. Different sounds need different tracks muted.
An automatic parameter to do this would be awesome! Dont you prefer being in controll? Ie deciding for yourself if you want this, or not? I know enough syles with a piano track, that sound still great when you play solo piano on top of that... Just use the slider (set to style parts volume) by hand if you want to mute a track, gives you full controll..
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#381898 - 01/19/14 03:26 AM
Re: Maria Elena Tyros 5 Rico
[Re: KeyBTyros]
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Registered: 07/27/05
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The Tyros4's style part on/off screen has icons for each instrument (and a light that comes on under it when it's being played)...a bit helpful, for sure...if I can remember to shut that part off.  What I also have done with some styles, and instead of replacing the string/synth pads, is to turn up (volume) those particular parts, rather than use a pad/string sound in my left hand which tends sometimes to sound too dense and/or muddy. Quite often these style pad parts default at a volume a bit too low for my liking. Once I get a mix that works, I'll re-program and store the style with those settings. Now that our instruments have basically unlimited storage, and, if you don't mind doing a little more planning ahead, the shutting off of style parts can be accomplished even easier by programming a set of eight registrations to accomplish that function for that particular style and/or song. Ian
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#381939 - 01/19/14 10:02 AM
Re: Maria Elena Tyros 5 Rico
[Re: ianmcnll]
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Registered: 01/01/09
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The Tyros4's style part on/off screen has icons for each instrument (and a light that comes on under it when it's being played)...a bit helpful, for sure...if I can remember to shut that part off. What I also have done with some styles, and instead of replacing the string/synth pads, is to turn up (volume) those particular parts, rather than use a pad/string sound in my left hand which tends sometimes to sound too dense and/or muddy. Quite often these style pad parts default at a volume a bit too low for my liking. Once I get a mix that works, I'll re-program and store the style with those settings. Now that our instruments have basically unlimited storage, and, if you don't mind doing a little more planning ahead, the shutting off of style parts can be accomplished even easier by programming a set of eight registrations to accomplish that function for that particular style and/or song. Ian Similar sort of thing on a Korg, Ian. Just touch the mute button on individual tracks on the mixer screen - or pull back on a slider. Playing and singing, I got thrown in at the deep end when our singer didn't show up one night and the song binder was stuck in front of me. Took to it like a duck to water. That's over 45 years ago and I've never looked back.
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#381952 - 01/19/14 12:15 PM
Re: Maria Elena Tyros 5 Rico
[Re: Bachus]
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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BTW, one feature I've yet to see on arrangers that would be way cool is, if you pick say a piano to play, the arranger automatically mutes the style piano Part. Ditto for horns, organs, whatever.
Generally, YOU play it, you don't need the arranger playing it too! But you never know what sound you feel like using, if you are just improvising, so you can't set the arranger's Part Mute up for it. Different sounds need different tracks muted.
An automatic parameter to do this would be awesome! Don't you prefer being in control? i.e deciding for yourself if you want this, or not? I know enough styles with a piano track, that sound still great when you play solo piano on top of that... Just use the slider (set to style parts volume) by hand if you want to mute a track, gives you full control.. I don't imagine a feature like this wouldn't have an on/off control. But when you are improvising (sure, know exactly what you are doing, easy enough to do this with OTS or whatever), you simply don't KNOW what the next sound is. But I see it as simpler than selecting the sound, then looking at the Style Mixer to see if a similar sound is being used, figure out what track it is on, then have to go and pull down that fader (and put it back exactly where it was when you select the next sound). Simplicity is what we arranger players want, isn't it? LOL
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