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#382816 - 01/28/14 06:33 AM Get Lucky on Roland BK9............
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#382817 - 01/28/14 06:36 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Adding your own RECORDED parts to the keys as shown in demo is very kool to customize your song....it acts like a multipad that you create and follows the chord changes. cool2 keys


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#382949 - 01/29/14 11:32 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Sorry, Donny, no... Recorded audio does NOT follow your chords!

It will (on the BK-9) however follow your tempo and key. So if he slowed the arranger down, or transposed to a different key, sure, it would all stay in sync.

If you notice, the lines the guitar player laid down ALREADY had the changes in them. It's a fairly simple piece, just the four chords, mostly. The guitarist plays a four bar loop that covers them. Then you play the chords for the arranger that follows them.

That open funk guitar style of playing can sit well over a variety of changes...
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#382952 - 01/29/14 11:44 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Yamaha released a great style for this song:

Lucky Disco:

http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/instru...91?currency=USD

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#382964 - 01/29/14 12:34 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Eric, B]
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Yamaha released a great style for this song:

Lucky Disco:

http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/instru...91?currency=USD

Eric


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#382984 - 01/29/14 01:14 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Here's a Roland style for it: http://rolandcontent.com/get-lucky.html

Better guitar part than the Yamaha, I think...
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#383040 - 01/29/14 07:58 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Sounds like my band back in 81. Who said "Disco sucks?" It's a Grammy staple, and we know they're always right! (like the internet)
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#383053 - 01/29/14 11:15 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Eric, B]
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In a addition to the Yamaha Musicsoft Version given by Eric Bott above wink
Here's another Yamaha Tyros 5 version available from Direct-Order online: cool

Get Lucky - Daft Punk

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#383064 - 01/30/14 12:41 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Trying just to listen and not be biased, but I have to admit, the Roland version is the one I like best so far...
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#383070 - 01/30/14 02:07 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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I might have that style somewhere here on my PC or a flash-drive....I will seek and employ!

I must say, although I'm not that big on most Disco, some of the Dance styles on the Tyros4 have terrific OTS synth voices...well chosen and with a nice use of effects.

Some sounds even remind me of my old Polymoog 203a and are especially fat and expressive...unlike the Polymoog (nicknamed mine "Mr. Driftaway"), these are always on their good behavior and remain in tune.

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#383078 - 01/30/14 05:44 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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The Roland version is wayyy more accurate WOW!
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#383079 - 01/30/14 05:49 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Nick G]
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I enjoyed the Roland version a bit more then the Yamaha one also it sounds more live,....just need to add the vocals... cool2

GET LUCKY

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#383090 - 01/30/14 08:30 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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... SERIOUSLY ... how many players here are going to actually PERFORM this song ?!?!? dance confused1
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#383095 - 01/30/14 08:48 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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You're probably right, Tony. Most stuff I record, which is all instrumental, is romantic easy listening music, mainly for the listener to have on whilst having a late dinner or supper with the wife or girlfriend or guests. It's easier to talk while instrumental music is playing as opposed to vocal numbers.

The beauty of the arranger keyboard is that we can do new versions of older tunes...I never mess with the melody, but the arrangements are changed. Sometimes I will do a 3/4 waltz time tune in slow swing or even Latin.

It's still a lot of fun.

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#383107 - 01/30/14 09:52 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: ianmcnll]
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Ian ... I am totally with you on changing up the styles ... it's one of the great things about arrangers ... NOT THAT A REAL DRUMMER COULDN'T DO THE SAME THING !!! (for the 'purists' out there wink ) ... when playing for a dinner crowd in a restaurant at Christmas time, I've played 'Jingle Bells' and 'White Christmas' in almost every genre on the board ... grin
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#383108 - 01/30/14 10:08 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By: tony mads usa
... SERIOUSLY ... how many players here are going to actually PERFORM this song ?!?!? dance confused1


I'll be playing this tune soon at an event. It was actually requested that we do it. Luckily, I'll have a good vocalist that will be able pull it off nicely. Not a hard tune to do with an arranger keyboard...
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#383109 - 01/30/14 10:10 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
Trying just to listen and not be biased, but I have to admit, the Roland version is the one I like best so far...


I'm a Yamaha player, and I agree.

But still,either one will sound work fine with a great vocal and keyboardist.


Edited by montunoman (01/30/14 10:13 AM)
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#383110 - 01/30/14 10:30 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: montunoman]
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Originally Posted By: montunoman

I'll be playing this tune soon at an event. It was actually requested that we do it. Luckily, I'll have a good vocalist that will be able pull it off nicely. Not a hard tune to do with an arranger keyboard...


... a good, YOUNG vocalist, no doubt ... wink
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#383114 - 01/30/14 11:29 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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I would think this would be an easy song to perform, even for an old fart like me. Just need the proper style and some multi-pads. No need to record the guitar riffs - they're already in the keyboard.

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#383116 - 01/30/14 11:36 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: travlin'easy]
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Gary ... I really wasn't thinking about the difficulty, but what audience I would be playing it for ... If there are young people in the audience, I don't know what they're going to be thinking about ME performing this song ... I guess if you performed it for your upscale Jewish ladies group it would go over ...
Let's just say it's not a song I would feel comfortable performing, for whatever reason ...
BUT, I would play the original mp3 if the situation called for it ...
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#383118 - 01/30/14 12:27 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Tony, the song itself sounds so 70ish that I don't think the younger set would go for it either. It's not a song that would make me, or any of my audiences jump out of their chairs and onto a dance floor. I'm with you on this aspect, I can't think of an audience that it would appeal to. Maybe I'm wrong, though - Carol tells me that a lot. wink

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#383123 - 01/30/14 01:30 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
I can't think of an audience that it Gary cool


Hi Gary- I'll playing this at a quincenera party. One of the younger members of the family sings and plays the guitar very well so he requested to sit in on this one. He wants to be able to take an improvised solo so a mp3 won't work.... It's an easy song to jam on, there a nice Yamaha style for it, the kids like it, and I expect to go over very.
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#383125 - 01/30/14 01:43 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Tony, the song itself sounds so 70ish that I don't think the younger set would go for it either. It's not a song that would make me, or any of my audiences jump out of their chairs and onto a dance floor. I'm with you on this aspect, I can't think of an audience that it would appeal to. Maybe I'm wrong, though - Carol tells me that a lot. wink
Gary cool


Gary ...you can't think of one of OUR audiences it would appeal to but DAFT PUNK, the performers of the song, took home record of the Year and Pop/Duo Group Performance for "Get Lucky", so obviously there IS an audience for it ...
dance
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#383127 - 01/30/14 02:13 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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I've never understood how that happened, Tony.

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#383129 - 01/30/14 02:48 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: tony mads usa]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Tony, the song itself sounds so 70ish that I don't think the younger set would go for it either. It's not a song that would make me, or any of my audiences jump out of their chairs and onto a dance floor. I'm with you on this aspect, I can't think of an audience that it would appeal to. Maybe I'm wrong, though - Carol tells me that a lot. wink
Gary cool


Gary ...you can't think of one of OUR audiences it would appeal to but DAFT PUNK, the performers of the song, took home record of the Year and Pop/Duo Group Performance for "Get Lucky", so obviously there IS an audience for it ...
dance


They are Millionaires many times over Daft Punk, then when the fever subsides a year from now they will just kick back and produce other new groups reaping the royalties also from their millions & on & on,.......it's an endless cycle.. wink at least now & in the future after we're gone Latin Music will ALWAYS hold the course,...50 yrs from now a Cha Cha, Salsa, Merengue, etc,.. will be just that Thank goodness.... cool2


Edited by Dnj (01/30/14 02:49 PM)

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#383131 - 01/30/14 03:07 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Donny, they could flat-assed broke and no one would know - including you and I. There are lots of famous people out there that don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. They live high on the hog, throw lavish parties, drive fancy cars, and in many, many instances, spend way more than they have coming in. There are lots of sports celebs that made millions upon millions, and then die with only the shirt on their back and a mountain of debt. You are correct, though, about 50 years from now Latin will be Latin, Celtic will be Celtic, etc.. And, 50 years from now, when we're both dead and buried, they'll still be playing Auld Lang Syne on NYE using a big band. smile

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#383132 - 01/30/14 03:11 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: travlin'easy]
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Donny, they could flat-assed broke and no one would know - including you and I. There are lots of famous people out there that don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. They live high on the hog, throw lavish parties, drive fancy cars, and in many, many instances, spend way more than they have coming in. There are lots of sports celebs that made millions upon millions, and then die with only the shirt on their back and a mountain of debt. You are correct, though, about 50 years from now Latin will be Latin, Celtic will be Celtic, etc.. And, 50 years from now, when we're both dead and buried, they'll still be playing Auld Lang Syne on NYE using a big band. smile

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#383143 - 01/30/14 04:08 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Donny ... $250,000 for a DJ ?!? confused1 ... now I understand these guys do a lot more than 'spin records' BUT ... I just don't get that ... but that's just me ...
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#383145 - 01/30/14 04:14 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Ditto!
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#383157 - 01/30/14 06:18 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: tony mads usa]
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Donny ... $250,000 for a DJ ?!? confused1 ... now I understand these guys do a lot more than 'spin records' BUT ... I just don't get that ... but that's just me ...


Yes Tony....boy are you old lol rotf2

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#383162 - 01/30/14 07:43 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: tony mads usa
Donny ... $250,000 for a DJ ?!? confused1 ... now I understand these guys do a lot more than 'spin records' BUT ... I just don't get that ... but that's just me ...


Yes Tony....boy are you old lol rotf2


...oldER !!! ... AIN'T old yet ... wink
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#383171 - 01/30/14 11:50 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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And as Groucho Marx says in his own inimitable fashion...


"A man's only as old as the woman he feels."

"Age is not a particularly interesting subject. Anyone can get old. All you have to do is live long enough."

"Although it is generally known, I think it's about time to announce that I was born at a very early age."

And lastly,

"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."



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#383182 - 01/31/14 06:22 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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#383250 - 01/31/14 02:53 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Maybe when YOU guys 'DJ', you just spin records, play CD's or MP3's..!

These guys MAKE the music. Think of them as 'musician/producers/DJ's'.
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#383424 - 02/01/14 01:02 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By: Diki
Maybe when YOU guys 'DJ', you just spin records, play CD's or MP3's..!

These guys MAKE the music. Think of them as 'musician/producers/DJ's'.


Well, they "assemble" the music. They don't MAKE anything, really. It's more like putting a puzzle together than painting a picture.
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#383432 - 02/01/14 01:16 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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You can paint a picture by assembling hundreds of thousands of tiny dots of each color. You can paint a picture by throwing paint at the canvas, or dripping it from a great height. You don't HAVE to use a brush and classical technique.

What's important is the picture, not the tool made to create it.

Daft Punk hire musicians like Niles Rodgers or singers like Pherrel to PLAY on the records. They don't just lift loops from records. George Martin used tape loops and found sounds on some of the Beatles tunes, and played on some of the tracks, as well. Was he a producer, or a musician, or a loop manipulator? He was ALL of that, just like these guys.

Don't pile on these guys just because they are young. They aren't doing anything our generation didn't do (except maybe make more money with it!)...

All ANY producer does is 'assemble' music. Only the way they do it changes. The day after Les Paul made the first multitrack recordings, music was no longer 'arranged' and 'recorded'. It was 'assembled'. Let's keep some perspective, here. LOL
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#383457 - 02/01/14 02:04 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Then we agree - they don't make the music ... they assemble it.
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#383465 - 02/01/14 03:34 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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Very few musicians for the last 50 years has 'made' their own music then. Just about every last one of them has a 'producer', and from what the musicians played (most of the time, for solo acts, the producer hires who plays with them), the producer 'assembles' a hit recording (or not, depending on the producer!).

Tell me who does it ALL nowadays? Or any time?

The list of self produced great albums is pretty short.

Take Quincy Jones... Are you saying, because he didn't PLAY it all, or sing it all, that he's less of a monster for making those great albums?

Maybe you need to read their bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_Punk

These guys aren't disk jockeys, lifting samples and breakbeats. They are electronic musicians, doing the synth work and a lot of the heavy lifting.
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