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#383162 - 01/30/14 07:43 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
tony mads usa Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: tony mads usa
Donny ... $250,000 for a DJ ?!? confused1 ... now I understand these guys do a lot more than 'spin records' BUT ... I just don't get that ... but that's just me ...


Yes Tony....boy are you old lol rotf2


...oldER !!! ... AIN'T old yet ... wink
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#383171 - 01/30/14 11:50 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
ianmcnll Offline
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And as Groucho Marx says in his own inimitable fashion...


"A man's only as old as the woman he feels."

"Age is not a particularly interesting subject. Anyone can get old. All you have to do is live long enough."

"Although it is generally known, I think it's about time to announce that I was born at a very early age."

And lastly,

"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."



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#383182 - 01/31/14 06:22 AM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
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#383250 - 01/31/14 02:53 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
Diki Offline


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Maybe when YOU guys 'DJ', you just spin records, play CD's or MP3's..!

These guys MAKE the music. Think of them as 'musician/producers/DJ's'.
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#383424 - 02/01/14 01:02 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Diki]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Originally Posted By: Diki
Maybe when YOU guys 'DJ', you just spin records, play CD's or MP3's..!

These guys MAKE the music. Think of them as 'musician/producers/DJ's'.


Well, they "assemble" the music. They don't MAKE anything, really. It's more like putting a puzzle together than painting a picture.
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#383432 - 02/01/14 01:16 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
Diki Offline


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You can paint a picture by assembling hundreds of thousands of tiny dots of each color. You can paint a picture by throwing paint at the canvas, or dripping it from a great height. You don't HAVE to use a brush and classical technique.

What's important is the picture, not the tool made to create it.

Daft Punk hire musicians like Niles Rodgers or singers like Pherrel to PLAY on the records. They don't just lift loops from records. George Martin used tape loops and found sounds on some of the Beatles tunes, and played on some of the tracks, as well. Was he a producer, or a musician, or a loop manipulator? He was ALL of that, just like these guys.

Don't pile on these guys just because they are young. They aren't doing anything our generation didn't do (except maybe make more money with it!)...

All ANY producer does is 'assemble' music. Only the way they do it changes. The day after Les Paul made the first multitrack recordings, music was no longer 'arranged' and 'recorded'. It was 'assembled'. Let's keep some perspective, here. LOL
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#383457 - 02/01/14 02:04 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
Uncle Dave Offline
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Then we agree - they don't make the music ... they assemble it.
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#383465 - 02/01/14 03:34 PM Re: Get Lucky on Roland BK9............ [Re: Dnj]
Diki Offline


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Very few musicians for the last 50 years has 'made' their own music then. Just about every last one of them has a 'producer', and from what the musicians played (most of the time, for solo acts, the producer hires who plays with them), the producer 'assembles' a hit recording (or not, depending on the producer!).

Tell me who does it ALL nowadays? Or any time?

The list of self produced great albums is pretty short.

Take Quincy Jones... Are you saying, because he didn't PLAY it all, or sing it all, that he's less of a monster for making those great albums?

Maybe you need to read their bio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daft_Punk

These guys aren't disk jockeys, lifting samples and breakbeats. They are electronic musicians, doing the synth work and a lot of the heavy lifting.
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