What do you think folks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaaijjzD_aE

Deane

Tyros 5 gets my vote juding by sound alone crisper cleaner...especially the Bones............

cant wait for the New S960

Not really a very good direct comparison, Deane.

I must say, I wasn't tempted by the Tyros5 and would only be interested if I was looking for a 76 note Tyros.

The Audio Drums don't interest me at all...too many restrictions, and my Tyros4 has all the sounds and styles I use the most.

I also like the overall sound of the Tyros4 better...it's the best Tyros Yamaha has made, in my opinion.

Thanks,

Ian

Funny, how we all hear differently

It sounds like Yamaha went to extremes to make the Tyros5 different from the Tyros4....Sometimes you can play around with sounds too much...In this comparison..The Tyros4 sounds better..

When I had my Tyros 5 I was not pleased with the new sound. I now have another Tyros 4. Returned the T5.

Deane

Deane, you know what's strange? I went through the very same situation with Tyros2 and Tyros3. I found the former to be "sweeter yet mellower" sounding than the latter, and I wasn't entirely surprised to find I was not alone in that determination.

However, some people actually preferred the sound of the Tyros3 to the T2 AND the Tyros4, so go figure?

I had a demo Tyros3 here, and I wasn't sure at that time if I would be taking an earlier retirement, so I wanted to get an instrument while i could still get my employee's discount.

I started looking for a new leftover Tyros2, but then scrapped the plan when I learned i'd be staying on a while longer.

The demo Tyros3 ended up with someone who really wanted it, and I got a PSR-S910 for a demo, another instrument of which I am very fond.

When the Tyros4 came out, I immediately liked how it sounded, which was, in my words, "sweet and mellow' much like the Tyros2, but with all the goodies of T3 and, of course, the new features I was hoping for, especially being able to use SA/SA2 voices in the accompaniments.

I've played a friend's Tyros5 several times now, and if I absolutely needed a 76-note arranger, I know I could live with it, perhaps even getting it to sound more like the Tyros4, but luckily, a 61 note keyboard is all I need for arranger work.

It's strange how the sound seems to have changed on every second Tyros, even if some say it's only minor.

Ian

Speaking of the Tyros 5.

I was with my music dealer getting a job done on my midi

accordion last week and I hung around waiting for the job to be

finished. I started looking at the keyboards on display to kill

a bit of time. After awhile I stumbled across the 76 note

Tyros 5. I have heard many demos and it sounds fabulous.

It was not setup to play on the day, but the thing that "hit

me" was it's build. For an instrument priced at over €4000 or

nearly $4500 dollars, it looked and felt so cheap.

I just feel IMHO, the casing and keyboard could be a lot more

robust for such a great instrument.

Just my opinion, that's all.

Frank

honestly from that video, if i closed my eyes and didnt know it was two different keyboards, ide think it was the exact same keyboard...

there's no noticeable difference in sound quality there at all.

Tyros5 is much bester than Tyros4,i like it!

There is a slight difference but no way could you say one was definitely better than the other . They both sound great

The overall sound of the T5 moved much more towards the more lively sound of Korg... I blame the new effects section for this...

The new stuff in the T5 however is brilliant, like the SA2 Jazz flute, the organ section, the styles with studio drums, the new trumpet, the ensemble section

theses are OTB comparisons....both can be made to sound different or better with some tweaking as with most arrangers KB's......
my opinions were just about what I heard in the demo here.
The focus should be on "Features" good, bad, need, as we all know most TOTL arrangers sound good these days.

If you do a feature comparisson between T4 and T5... your video only lasts 10 secconds

Feature changes need to be made ..... online consumer questioners should be on their websites so manufacturers can get an average worldwide opinion from players on
WHAT THEY NEED & WANT in future arranger KB's TOTL/MOTL.....

I had a strange thing several years back with my Tyros 3 - I went for nearly a month without turning it on because of being completely occupied with other things at that time, but when I did turn on the T3, I was completely surprised how good it sounded.

I think our minds and ears become immune to what we are hearing if it is the same all the time.

Also this - out of the over 1000 voices now available on these keyboard, how many do you use regularly???

Just asking,

Bill G

Id say I use 10 -20 goto sounds, as Roland termanology
("easy 20" ).... & 30-40 styles tops...
I consider my Arranger KB "MY BAND" on stage with 5-6 players as in a real band you have 5 or 6 players playing their instruments,
& I'm the singer

Everyone needs and wants different things....

Back on topic... T4 versus T5.... i think the T5s real update was its sound, and thats exactly what this comparisson tries to show (or make auditable)

Thats the point to get a world wide consensus of needs......majority rules I say! But will they listen....
I think now most times because $$$$ is all they care about....true that!

It's obvious that we approach the arranger in many different ways.

Donny uses it as his personal band with a certain number of players with him the singer.

Since I play mostly instrumentals, I tend to use the "sky's the limit" approach and use quite a few sounds and styles...it could be a solo guitarist or piano player, full symphony orchestra, jazz trio/quartet, Big Band, rock and roll band, entire composition using synthesizer sounds, country/bluegrass band...it goes on.

Basically, if I can imagine it, the arranger gives me the tools to create it, within the limits of my playing skills, of course.

I am also not a stickler on total authenticity; I just want the music to be pleasant to listen to, and bear repeated listening. So if my guitar emulation or virtual saxophone isn't perfect and won't fool everybody, I'm not too worried, although I will try my best to give the illusion of that particular instrument in context of the music genre I choose to play.

There's really no right or wrong way...it's being able to get the desired result that is important.

Ian

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