I don't know how many keyboard users in general consider themselves singers first and keyboardists way second, but I'm one of them. My vocals are the most important part of my performance and I am extremely discouraged with the AUDYA in this one regard. Ironically the SD1 was much better because the onboard effects were never working properly and so I always had it completely dry and instead I would just put effects and reverb on it via the Mixer board I put the vocal channel through.

Not an option with the AUDYA! I can't understand what possessed them to have the mic/voicetron be piggybacked in the entire mix as part of the Left/right main outputs, but now I cannot isolate the track as before.

I have tried everything to make it sound right, but even with the limiter off, no compression, no vibrato, no pitch correction, etc....just the small hall and the lightest reverv, it STILL sucks balls. The voice sounds "processed" and loses the natural warmth that comes through a normal connection. I could leave it at 'dry' but that's no good either as without any reverb, it's dead sounding.

The vocalizer itself has other issues.. I can't get the damn thing to be consistent with how it comes in. Some songs it blasts in so loud and echoey, even with the volume slider 1/3rd of the way up that it squeals and I have to quickly turn it off. Terrible for live performance.

However I'm hoping someone might have another suggestion. I've been trying to reach the rep AJ for a few weeks and no answer so he might be on vacation..

He did mention on the DVD tutorial that you can use the other outputs to isolate certain tracks like drums, bass, etc. I'm really praying the same can be said for the vocals. Is anyone aware of that possibility? Conversely, could anyone recommend a third party unit that has excellent vocal quality and will be able to read the midi info and style related on the fly harmonies? Would appreciate any help.

Right now I'm using TWO microphones. One for a pure, normal sound, and another taped below it for vocalizer when needed. It's still giving me issues with improper levels and such..but it's the only option I have right now.

And...nothing here either. Ketron forum OR the general. Hard to believe there is so little support from supposedly shared groups of fellow users. The last 3 or more topics I asked questions on I got zero replies. People are either too indifferent to help or there is a serious lack of knowledge to these products. Probably why I have dreaded replacing keyboards. It's always a massive headache in multiple ways.

Like I said in the other thread, I give up.

I do not like knocking people and I know here on the SZ forum AJ has been held in high esteem. I can only speak from personal experience and unfortunately that has not been very positive. I ain't talking about Ketron in general cause I would run out of space here, but over the last 4 months I tried out several ketron products and also sent several emails ( even to different addresses) to AJ. To none of them there was any reply.
Could it be I was not directly asking for one of his harddisk replacments ? I know this is slightly off topic and I apologize as such, but it has been bugging me for some time now.

regards,
JOhn

Hi,

Don't think you can route the vocals separately. I wanted to use this function to up the vocals on a monitor, but 'fraid no can do.

I've discovered that the biggest problems with the vocalizer is caused by the mic volume being to loud (thumbwheel at back next to mic input)

The Ajamsonic upgrade does wonders for the onboard vocalizer!

The TC Helicon Voicelive II will do everything you require and more. I had one & might get one again.

Cheers,

Henni

In my experiences using many Ketron keyboard models thru the years on stage is Great sounds/styles but I also could never get the VH settings to cooperate the way I wanted.....So I just used an outboard Vocal processor & VH like the TC Helicon or Digitech VR units vs going thru the KB which made my life MUCH easier.

good luck

Thank you. I appreciate the advice. I'll give up on trying to reroute it. I was afraid I couldn't do that.

I adjusted the tone wheel over the entire range. To tell you the truth, it doesn't even seem to affect the volume output at all. I'm even uncertain what is the "start" position, but I'm presuming the far counter-clockwise..

Last night I was extremely careful and tried to moniter it religiously. I gig 4 nights a week here in Toronto. I kept the volume very low on the mic plugged into the vocalizer and my second mic I had a my direct main into the mixer. That one I had normal volume and regular channel reverb with the mixer. No issues, great sound.

The Ketron vocalizer is all over the place with levels when the midi files come in and it doesn't seem related to obvious things like the volume on the track alone. I have one song that it came blasting in almost double the volume of my mic even with the slider a quarter of the way up. Then the slightest pull down and the voices disappear! I had to move it more then double the way up on the slider to get it to the proper level after that which was still much less then how it blasted in. This would repeat many times during the song as the chorus was the only place it came on again.

This is the best example of the main problem even now without using the channel even as the primary mic. As I said in the OP, it's disappointing and I was at least hoping to isolate the channel. For now I'm going to get the Radial JS2 to split the mic so I won't need two and then I'll either jury rig the Voicetron as best as I can for these known issues or eventually find a better third party one. I heard good things about the TC Helicon.

Just want to explain all these issues very clearly for others so they will be prepared if they choose these products.

I am extremely pleased with the instrument quality. Pity this one specific issue with vocals has to be so difficult to get around.

Oh just for the record, this board is the Ajamsonic. It was personally put together by AJ when he acquired it from someone used. He himself has been great for helping me. I haven't heard back in a couple of weeks on some issues I asked about but I haven't seen him posting here or on Facebook so he's probably on a much needed vacation. He's only one man.

kendall enjoyed your performance gig video... nice playing & singing!!

http://www.kendallpartington.ca/

Thank you very much. That was the SD1 at the time.

I would like to put the record straight by telling that AJ has today mailed me with some goodies for my old Ketron X1.Apparently he has been very busy across the border up in Canada to familiarize folks with ketron and audya in particular.

Thanks AJ and it is a shame ketron has not got the manpower, drive and vision of a brand like Korg cause in essence they make great stuff.

regards,
John