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#387692 - 04/08/14 06:34 PM I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT)
Scottyee Offline
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After reading this synthzone thread with great interest, I finally purchased a RockNRoller (model R8RT) cart, and LOVE IT! smile

Thanks to Gary Diamond's pictures, videos, and construction guidance,
I had a pair of aluminum rails constructed for my cart secured by quick release detent pins.

Here are pics (see below) of my RockNRoller Cart with custom aluminium rail assembly of which includes the option of mounting the rails at 3 different height positions.










The 2 upper positions utilize existing pre-drilled RockNRoller handle holes. I had a 3rd set of lower holes drilled so the keyboard case can sit below the top of the cart handles (see pics). I
purchased two 5 ft lengths ($11.77 each) of 6061-T6 1" Square (0.125" thick) Aluminum Tubing and four Stainless Steel detent pins with Lanyard...452; $4.59 each.
The Aluminum machined cuts and holes were all done by my local machine shop so I don't have those specs.

The big advantage of installing the light weight aluminium rails (shelf) is you avoid the risk of back injury not having to bend to lift the keyboard off the floor. Gary, both my back & myself thank you for the help and the pics & info you've shared. rocker

Scott smile
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#387693 - 04/08/14 06:50 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Looks great!....Never leave home without a R&R!

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#387694 - 04/08/14 06:55 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Looks great, Scott. I'm glad I could be of help. What is really nice about that particular setup is you can make just one trip from the car to the job and no back breaking lifting. In my case, I use a plywood reinforced keyboard case that doubles as a work station while setting up. And, the top shelf setup weighs next to nothing.

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (04/08/14 06:59 PM)
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#387698 - 04/08/14 09:22 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Looks just like mine Scott. Gary's is the bigger model.
Where are the Nano covers??
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#387703 - 04/08/14 09:57 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: DonM]
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Great job, Scott, it looks terrific!
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#387716 - 04/09/14 09:14 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Donny, you're absolutely right about the RockNroller. It's awesome. cool

Gary, getting all the gear from car to job in one trip is a godsend, and having the added aluminum rails act as a standing height shelf
Is equally appreciated. And With the aluminum rails attached the cart is more stable and solid than ever. smile

Don, assuming you're referring to the Nano Sub dust covers wink
that came with our 300' s wasn't sure how much actual protection other than keeping the dust off
they provide so for the quick in and out local gigs have been leaving them at home. That said,
I really love the Lucas Nano sound, ultra lightweight 22 lb portability and flexible setup versatility owning two Lucas Nano 300
Units offers.

Graham, thanks for sharing the pic of your RockNRoller Shelf modified utilizing detent pins setup and email explaining how you did it.
smile

Scott
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#387719 - 04/09/14 09:59 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee
Donny, you're absolutely right about the RockNroller. It's awesome. cool

Gary, getting all the gear from car to job in one trip is a godsend, and having the added aluminum rails act as a standing height shelf
Is equally appreciated. And With the aluminum rails attached the cart is more stable and solid than ever. smile

Don, assuming you're referring to the Nano Sub dust covers wink
that came with our 300' s wasn't sure how much actual protection other than keeping the dust off
they provide so for the quick in and out local gigs have been leaving them at home. That said,
I really love the Lucas Nano sound, ultra lightweight 22 lb portability and flexible setup versatility owning two Lucas Nano 300
Units offers.

Graham, thanks for sharing the pic of your RockNRoller Shelf modified utilizing detent pins setup and email explaining how you did it.
smile

Scott


Scott just be careful the rough bottom rails of the R&R could essentially scratch the Nanos subs left unprotected..
just sayin' cool2 I don't know how anyone can gig and transport with out a R&R....best bang for the buck anywhere....your gear & your back will thank you! I have two an R10 & R8.. cool2

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#387730 - 04/09/14 12:44 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Looks like I'll have to get the RocknRoller.

Thanks for the helpful links on the materials.

Do you still use your EV100's? Do they fit on the cart with the rest of the equipment? I bought them way back on your review and recommendation, and still like using them. I just hate lifting them up on the speaker poles.

Regards,

Jerry

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#387731 - 04/09/14 01:11 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Hi - wow, looks great! I'll have to consider a mod like this to my R12! Now, if they would only make the WHOLE cart (metal parts) out of aLL aluminum ... that would probably take ~5 kilos off the weight of the whole cart!

Nice looking custom Rock'n'Roller!

-Jim
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#387742 - 04/10/14 07:56 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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I have used this same model for years. The only problem was my rear tires would get a flat, so I bought the new model with solid tires and it has been great. I bought the accessory shelf to go with it.
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#387743 - 04/10/14 08:34 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Bernie, I had the same problem with the balloon tires, and I injected "Slime" in the tires - no problems since. The tires are very thin and both were pierced with thorns from rose bushes, which caused the leakage. Slime is a great product.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#387747 - 04/10/14 08:53 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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I have a beat up R&R R10 for sale $50.00..

+YOU PAY THE SHIPPING!!

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#387755 - 04/10/14 10:23 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
I have a beat up R&R R10 for sale $50.00..

+YOU PAY THE SHIPPING!!


https://app.box.com/s/bpg8pltme8doj1vtegnv


Just having some fun!!!!!

Jerryghr

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#387756 - 04/10/14 10:25 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By: Jerryghr
Originally Posted By: Dnj
I have a beat up R&R R10 for sale $50.00..

+YOU PAY THE SHIPPING!!


https://app.box.com/s/bpg8pltme8doj1vtegnv


Just having some fun!!!!!

Jerryghr


great pic ....just proves what a fantastic KART the R&R is! clap

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#387762 - 04/10/14 10:55 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Dnj]
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... whatever works ... grin
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#387764 - 04/10/14 11:17 AM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Gary - this "Slime" - is it something you buy in an automotive shop? I'll have to try to find some. Does it leave the tires still with some "pliability" or do they become more stiff? I like pneumatic (air-filled) tires, which my R'n'R'er has front and rear, for rolling smoothly and quietly over most surfaces, but they do lose air too easily.

Thanks,
Jim
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#387772 - 04/10/14 12:54 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Jerryghr]
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Originally Posted By: Jerryghr

Do you still use your EV100's?


Yep, still got the EV's and still appreciate them but haven't needed to use them ever since I purchased two HK Lucas Nano 300's from our man Frank @ AudioWorks CT. For venues up to 100 people, this system is idea, and with no lifting heavy speakers, your back will thank you for it. I love my Lucas Nano 300 system. For larger venues consider the new HK Lucas Nano 600. smile

Originally Posted By: Jerryghr

Do they (EV100's) fit on the cart with the rest of the equipment?

The EV100's should fit nicely on the bottom shelf of the RockNRoller Cart along with the other gear. In this case I would position the aluminum rails up higher up, utilizing one of the pre-drilled holes closer to the top of the cart handles which will increase the lower shelf height space to accommodate even more gear. grin

Originally Posted By: jimlaing
Now, if they would only make the WHOLE cart (metal parts) out of aLL aluminum ... that would probably take ~5 kilos off the weight of the whole cart!


Hi Jim. smile I was thinking the same thing but realize an all aluminium version would substantially up the price and may not be able to support the 500 weight capacity of the steel version either. I bought my R8RT 'on sale' last week for $139 (including free shipping) cool at Wayfair.Com but now see they've raised the price to $169. frown

Scott cool

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#387775 - 04/10/14 02:09 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Btw, Scott, I love the Fusion bag. I bought one from Frank when I bought the Korg Pa900. Great bag!
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#387782 - 04/10/14 03:06 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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Jim, Slime is a tire repair product that can be purchased at Pep Boys, etc..., that merely seals the tire from the inside. The tire remains soft and pliable.

The aluminum bars for the top shelf were purchased from a local welding shop. It's standard 1-inch box aluminum. I purchased the heavier duty stuff from the welding ship, but you can buy standard duty stuff from Home depot. You can also buy the detent pins there as well.

What prompted me to design this was I ordered a top shelf from Rock And Roller, and it was bulky, very heavy, difficult to install, and quite expensive. I sent it back and came up with my own design, which is what Scott and many others are now using.

Gary cool
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#387791 - 04/10/14 03:37 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: PraiseTheLord]
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Originally Posted By: PraiseTheLord
Btw, Scott, I love the Fusion bag. I bought one from Frank when I bought the Korg Pa900. Great bag!

I agree. rocker
The Fusion #10 keyboard bag (9 lbs) fits my Tyros 5-61 perfectly in Length and Width) so there's no wasted case length which might make some other 76 note soft keyboard cases like the Gator GKB-76 a tad too long to fit & flat on the RockNRoller R8-R10, or 12 shelf. I suppose a workaround for longer keyboard cases would be to drop down one of the cart's handles but then you lose the ability to add a shelf or the aluminum rails.
Graham, which Fusion Bag model size are you using for your Korg PA900? cool

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#387792 - 04/10/14 06:02 PM Re: I Love my new Customized RockNRoller Cart (R8RT) [Re: Scottyee]
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The 7lb #6 (no wheels). Great pocket on the front of the bag for cables.
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