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#387847 - 04/12/14 09:10 AM
Re: Kontakt 5
[Re: Bachus]
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Senior Member
Registered: 09/21/02
Posts: 5520
Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I have always been in search for the best lead sounds I can get, which, in my case, are acoustic instruments.
For NH I have S910,Audya,KN7000, or vArranger. Larger gigs usually means the Audya.
I also play a key role in my band, which means I have to have a variety of lead instruments, including my Nord Electro with a Neo Ventilator for organ. My Audya cuts through the mix alright but I know there are better lead voices out there.
I have an iPad, Receptor2, and powerful Laptops. For software, I have EW library and Kontact 2,Basic Sampletank etc. My problem is not knowing enough to make the voices expressive enough to use. I need solo voices that do not take a lot of cc knowledge to sound convincing.
My situation is different from Donny,Don,Gary etc. in that I love to explore for the Holy Grail because I gig three times a week, and have time.
Edited by Bernie9 (04/12/14 09:12 AM)
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pa4X 76 ,SX900, Audya 76,Yamaha S970 , vArranger, Hammond SK1, Ketron SD40, Centerpoint Space Station, Bose compact
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#387850 - 04/12/14 09:27 AM
Re: Kontakt 5
[Re: Bernie9]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5392
Loc: English Riviera, UK
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I have always been in search for the best lead sounds I can get, which, in my case, are acoustic instruments.
For NH I have S910,Audya,KN7000, or vArranger. Larger gigs usually means the Audya.
I also play a key role in my band, which means I have to have a variety of lead instruments, including my Nord Electro with a Neo Ventilator for organ. My Audya cuts through the mix alright but I know there are better lead voices out there.
I have an iPad, Receptor2, and powerful Laptops. For software, I have EW library and Kontact 2,Basic Sampletank etc. My problem is not knowing enough to make the voices expressive enough to use. I need solo voices that do not take a lot of cc knowledge to sound convincing.
My situation is different from Donny,Don,Gary etc. in that I love to explore for the Holy Grail because I gig three times a week, and have time. HI Bernie You have 4 main features on an arranger, (Pitch Wheel, Modulation Wheel, Keyboard Dynamics and after touch) so just assign these CCs to your instruments as required. (EG: Assign Pitch to after touch on a flute to get a natural bend without having to take you hand off the keyboards) If you have an expression (Volume) pedal you can also assign this CC to the expression control of the voice. (Just try to think outside the box rather than sticking with convention) Hope this helps Bill
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#387854 - 04/12/14 10:38 AM
Re: Kontakt 5
[Re: Dnj]
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Senior Member
Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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Just seems weird to me to purchase a $5000.00 Arranger and then augment it with VST sounds? For what? If you think PC programs & all the effort to run them sound better why do you need both? Why do people buy soundexpansion packs if there are allready 1200 sounds in their arranger? Thats the simple answer Donny. The truth however is more complicated. In an arranger all sounds are ballanced to sound great together... Thats why Yamaha styles sound perfect on yamahas, ketron styles on audyas and korg styles on Korg... Porting between different brands is possible, yet takes a lot of work.. Products like Varranger, live styler and the lionstracs project dont have their own styles at all, so every style you want to add takes a lot of fine tuning, nothing works out of the box. So why using Vst... I use them as extra solo sounds on top of styles and midi files on my PA3x ... Or with Karma on my kronos... As said, Komplete (kontakt5 is part of Komplete 9) with its 16000 sounds, and even better expansions is an all around package with enough sounds available... If i would have to create a software arranger, i would build it with komplete 9. All you would need is about 500 high quallity styles and you would finally have a top of the line soft arranger. And thats what i dont understand about the current softarrangers.... Their weak point is that they dont work OTB, so why dont they make them work OOTB. With an own soundset and an own set of sounds and starat working from there with VST support. It was what killed lionstracs, and its the burden of Varranger and live styler and the like.. To put it simple.... The softarrangers are trying to sell you an arranger withouth sounds and withouth styles... But they have the possibilitie to add as many user sounds and styles as possible... Most people are not up to such a challenge. VSTs as Komplete, are functionaly the same as a high quallity sound module... If you dont need sound modules, you dont need VSTs.. Thats where we are different, i used to have a setup with 3 keyboards, 7 modules and an atari long time ago... And you are hapy with a single light weight portable arranger, that fills all your needs for performing
Edited by Bachus (04/12/14 10:44 AM)
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