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#39488 - 04/11/02 05:09 PM
styles dilema
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Member
Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 480
Loc: The Plantation, Leesburg, Flor...
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Occasionally, I get styles sent to me that the owner would like converted to kn6k format. Maybe they came from a friend, or the sending person owns more than one keyboard by different manufacturers, and wants the commercial disk converted so as to use it on both keyboards. While I get to use my copy to play with, I am asked to keep it off the internet, which also means that I can't use it with a sequenced song. I will honor this request, because even if I can't pass the styles along, I can get a lot of ideas from them to use on other conversions. Especially older styles that only have two variations and I have to fill in the other two to bring them up to par. Now, after a period of time, someone else sends me the same styles, sometimes already converted, or I come upon them on a website, converted to another unnamed brand, but ready for anyone to download and use, and this has become a real problem for me. If I use the styles from the first party, that person will think I didn't honor the agreement, and likely never send me anything again. However, since the styles are there for everyone, why shouldn't I pass along the good ones? (Keep in mind that these will not be Technics commercial styles.) Should I make it a policy to not get into that type of agreement, or make it for a set period of time? I have styles I've been sitting on for six months, and some I really would like to use. If the sender makes no special request, then you all will see the results eventually, and we all benefit from the exchange. I suppose I should say that from this point forward, any styles sent for conversion will be shared with forum readers, so if anyone has styles they don't wish to share, then please keep them to yourself. We have enough older material from Solton, Roland, Yamaha, and Korg to last a good many years. All they need are a fresh change of clothes. Complicated, but not impossible. Time consuming, but rewarding. Now, about those CA software styles....are they under copyright protection or open for use? I haven't had time to even look at them yet.
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#39491 - 04/12/02 01:53 AM
Re: styles dilema
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Senior Member
Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4381
Loc: Norway
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Hi all. The downloadabe styles and songs at Christian's (CA soft) website is free to download, and as far as I know the styles is made by him, or/and converted and tweaked stuff. Maybe he will see this topic, and post a reply too? However, some of the songs are well known, and probably will be copyrightet, but there are also a lot of "traditionals" who often are "old" of age and free to use.
At my webpage it is only converted "onboard" style-sets from different keyboards, and hopefully there are not any from the manufacturers or others addondisks who is for sale to find. If you happen to find any of that kind, it's not legal, so please feel free to tell me, and it will be removed immediately. Kind regards GJ
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#39494 - 04/12/02 01:12 PM
Re: styles dilema
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Senior Member
Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 3319
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there is a lot of adjustment available in the composer, not necessarily available in other manufacturers style systems - and vice versa.
so a conversion can only come up with the notes used in each track, pretty well balanced if you are lucky, with a sound hopefully close to that of the original.
since other keyboards have other sounds, and a style is played with an original voice, a conversion will sound slightly wrong in the same way that your sequence that sounded fine on an older keyboard does not sound the same on a newer keyboard, even though the sounds are much better. You tend to play taking into account the feel of the voice - if the attack, decay, brilliance or richness has changed, the feel will also change.
that's why you pay for professioanly produced disks, a lot of work and tweaking has gone into them to produce a fine style sound rather than just an average one.
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#39496 - 04/12/02 05:59 PM
Re: styles dilema
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Member
Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 38
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Hello Friends, CA-Styles are Copyrighted... I have put them on my Site and Christian has write me an Letter that he whant that i write down from who comes the Styles and so on... If they are "FREE", why i must write that on my Site ? I have ask him and he have answer me that he have make the Styles and that the copyright is by him... I'm not worrie with him, but i whant show you that they are "free" to use, but not for more.... Greets Thomas http://www.thkmcs.de
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