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#395400 - 11/03/14 04:56 AM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: leezone]
rob Offline
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Registered: 09/02/14
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Hi to all,i have had experience with all the korg keyboards and many different brands external units,the korg pa3x and pa800 are the best at the moment also what i found with the ketron very good clean and great compresson effect the only thing that lacks on the ketron and dont forget very important is user scales that ketron dont have on there arrangers where all the balkan country's use alot,as for yamaha i have never had any experience with

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#395405 - 11/03/14 11:20 AM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: guitpic1]
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
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Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Originally Posted By: guitpic1

Also, no harmonizer sounds as good, to my ears, as real vocal harmonies.


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#395406 - 11/03/14 11:41 AM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: leezone]
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
On the other hand, my harmonizer does not drink, never tries to steal my woman, and works really cheap! smile
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#395410 - 11/03/14 12:55 PM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: DonM]
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Registered: 02/27/13
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I think this one drinks! Listen to Yamaha's VH2 totally embarrass itself at the end of this video...........

"TYROS TIPS BECAUSE WE CARE" (canned robotic overtones)



I'm sure the Tipsters care as they are always helping Tyros owners. I just don't understand how much Yamaha cares by putting that totally subpar vocal processing into an otherwise great sounding keyboard. If I, as a singer, naively forked out $6000 for a Tyros 5 without checking out the vocal processing, I would be livid. It has the same chintzy sounding VH2 that I rejected in the PSRS 950 (bought the 750 instead and continue to use my Digitech pedal harmonizer).

God Bless,
Don
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#395416 - 11/03/14 04:52 PM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: leezone]
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Don, after a bit of tuning, I found the S-950 VH nearly as good as my TC Helicon Harmony M, and equally as good as my Digitech VR. Keep in mind, however, that it does take a bit of tuning to get the built in VH to sound good with your voice. Additionally, as Uncle Dave and DNJ will tell you, there's a real skill to singing with ANY VH system. It does require some practice to get it to sound great.

Cheers,

Gary cool
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#395426 - 11/03/14 05:45 PM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: travlin'easy]
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As a seasoned veteran I trust your judgement Gary. So what you are saying is that with the right setup and a quality singer that.........

"Tyros Tips Because We Care"

could be made to sound 100% better?

God Bless,
Don
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#395429 - 11/03/14 06:04 PM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: KORG80]
tony mads usa Offline
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Don ... I've never had a problem listening to your harmonies ...
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#395430 - 11/03/14 06:06 PM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: leezone]
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Absolutely! There is a guy on the PSR Tutorial that provided some incredible harmonies using a PSR-2000. He later posted some songs that were absolutely outstanding. Check out his primer at http://www.psrtutorial.com/lessons/tune/vh/VHPrimer.html

The next chance I get to bring the S-950 into the office/studio I'll record an oldie that has been around longer than I have - "Cool Water." Lots of neat harmonies in this song, you make the call, though. Now, I probably will not be able to do this until next weekend - too damned many jobs tween now and then.

Gary cool
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#395432 - 11/03/14 06:21 PM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: leezone]
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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I already posted how to make the VH2 sound amazing ABOVE,..
get out your s950/Tyros 4/5 etc,.. look and read then watch the video stopping it after each setting....
follow my tips also & you'll be amazed.. !!.......... cool2


Edited by Dnj (11/03/14 06:25 PM)

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#395433 - 11/03/14 07:39 PM Re: Vocal Harmonizer > Korg vs. Yamaha vs. Ketron [Re: travlin'easy]
KORG80 Offline
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Registered: 02/27/13
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Can't believe how hard you work Gary. Do that at your leisure.

After what Donny says below your post, I'm concerned that I rejected the 950 without giving it a full chance. When I was trying it at the store the Yamaha rep was there and he did his best to tweak VH2 to my liking. Guess he was not a singer like you and Donny and didn't really know how to make it work. I do have to say though that I am not impressed with Yamaha's rep, Robbie's harmonies on "Dream, Dream, Dream" and "Good Luck Charm". They also sound canned and robotic.

God Bless,
Don
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