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#3999 - 10/29/02 11:43 AM The Death of File Sharing
Equalizer Offline
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As we all know, Napster went down the tubes a long time ago, and more recently even Morpheus seems to be pretty useless too.

Now, I suppose I don't want to get into some kind of debate about the morals of whether it's right or wrong to download MP3s. In my case, I would certainly have to plead guilty as charged. In my defence however, I can honestly say that 99.9% of the MP3s I've ever downloaded have been really obscure files that are virtually impossible to get a hold of any other way.

Today I downloaded and tried out WinMX. Although I found people who had the files, it wouldn't download from them cos it kept saying I'm in a que.

Folks, I hate to say it, but the punchline of my thread is this... the days of hastle free file downloading are GONE!

I mean, just think about the main players.
* Napster- DEAD.
* Kazza- Frought with spyware and trojans.
* WinMX- Leach City (i.e.- people who won't share what they have but are always eager to feed off other people)
* Audio Galaxy- never tried it, but I've heard that it also has some very malicious spyware.
* Morpheus- a shambles. Poor results, ad's everywhere, pop ups galore and recent reports suggest it TOO is now frought with spyware.

It looks like the faceless major labels have ended up winning after all.

Not one... and I'll say that again... NOT ONE single solitary act has ever made it big through the Internet. Years have passed and we're STILL getting force fed the same CRAP that they've been giving us for oh so long; boy bands, girl bands, T.V. competitions, regurgitated covers, soap stars, phonies, teeny boppers, on stage miming, faceless fat cats, nepotism of the highest order.... it all makes me wanna PUKE!!!

I'm totally disappointed with the Net in general and I just wanted to share that with you.

[This message has been edited by Equalizer (edited 10-29-2002).]
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#4000 - 10/29/02 01:25 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Yes, the record labels have won. Spread the word, good folks. We surrender.

This message brought to you by IRC, Kazaa-Lite and Soulseek. Copyright2002 Get-a-clueTM Inc.

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#4001 - 10/29/02 03:55 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Hello........I'm a napster junkie from way back and too have moved on to winMX. I have a DSL conection, share a lot of files, and have been totally astounded as to the NUMEROUS files I successfully download there. I have found things via winMX that i have been looking for years elsewhere......excellent quality too! I belong to some other keyboard groups and we have been using winMX to share our MP3s.......don't know why you aren't having the same results.........maybe you just listen to weird stuff? hehe...........just kidding. Good luck

P.S. I have heard that if you are behind a firewall and can't choose to have a primary connection your success will suck.

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#4002 - 10/29/02 05:06 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Yeah... maybe that's what it is. I am indeed behind a firewall, but I have the thing set to accept all wheelings and dealings with WinMX.

It's a nice theory though. I'm glad to hear that there's at least one person out there who's having a bit of luck with the thing.
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#4003 - 10/29/02 11:58 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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its getting easier..

this is kinda off topic but have you heard about that court case over that replaytv? i heard this the other day:
quote..
Jamie Kellner, the head of Turner Broadcasting, was quoted as saying, ‘People who watch TV without commercials are stealing from the entertainment producers’.

hahaha man o man.. that guy has issues

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#4004 - 10/30/02 12:31 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Jiddu,

that quote was from months ago regarding TiVo and the like... he later recanted it and said he meant it as a "metaphor" or something.

But his point is interesting... basically, if the ability to skip commercials becomes commonplace, airtime will become less valuable, which means networks and the like would end up charging less for commercial airtime and therefore have less of a budget to put into programming. His worse case scenario involved airtime being worthless, therefor people would have to subscribe to each network individually, which he claimed would cost up around $200 per channel per month. I think this last point is bullshit on his part, I mean, I can get 6 channels of HBO/cinemax for $50 a month, and in the case of HBO, one can argue their original programming is of a higher quality than that of the networks.

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#4005 - 10/30/02 02:58 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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By the way... I have to say... at this point in time I feel like a complete shmuck.

I should have made the title of this thread, "Is there any chance one of you guys could tell me how to work WinMX?"

It turns out that on the very first page when you connect, there's an option to use primary or secondary connections. Sure enough, I had it on secondary, so no wonder I wasn't getting much action.

Ok ok ok. So, I'm a looney. Happy??????

-Equalizer
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#4006 - 10/30/02 08:04 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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No, not really. You just have to understand that people had gigs of MP3s long before Napster came along.

You can download anything over IRC. Direct Connect is a great way to get movies. Especially for us in Sweden, where releases are almost always later than in the US.

-tek

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#4007 - 10/30/02 05:21 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cloakboy:
Jiddu,
that quote was from months ago regarding TiVo and the like... he later recanted it and said he meant it as a "metaphor" or something.


heh with all the high speed communication in the world its funny that australia seems to get the latest news by ship.

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#4008 - 10/31/02 09:43 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Use Kazaa lite...no spyware.

To delete spyware run Adaware www.lavasoftusa.com

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#4009 - 11/01/02 06:28 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Never... I repeat NEVER use Kazza!!!

I did and ended up getting hit with a trojan horse that majorly screwed up some very important stuff on my computer.
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#4010 - 11/01/02 07:51 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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It's KAZAA. Jesus how hard can it be to get it right. Kazaa Lite is an illegal version of Kazaa with everything except for the filesharing removed. No spyware, nada. Ad Aware didn't find shit after I installed Kazaa-Lite (except for one harmless placeholder file).

Check it out if you've been using Kazaa.

-tek

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#4011 - 11/02/02 09:59 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Hey! Cool it! Just because you Swedish folk are use to the idea of having freaky ways of spelling things doesn't give you reason to knock the rest of us.

Anyway... where can I get this Kazaaaaaaaaaaaaa Lite?
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#4012 - 11/10/02 06:34 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Any kind of file shareing has the potential to be virus ridden. If you decide to do it, make sure you have a good updated virus scanner in use with all the scanning options turned on. File sharing networks are not the most secure way of getting files, but really..what is ? Best to protect yourself and know what you are doing before you do it.

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#4013 - 11/10/02 08:32 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Quote:
Originally posted by Blacklight:
File sharing networks are not the most secure way of getting files, but really..what is ?


buying it.

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#4014 - 11/10/02 09:30 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Quote:
Originally posted by Equalizer:
Anyway... where can I get this Kazaaaaaaaaaaaaa Lite?


try http://www.google.com

"Search engine, mutha' ****a', do you speak it?"

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#4015 - 11/11/02 01:46 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Cloak-
Your posts would have a much more powerful effect if you tried to construct meaningful sentences.
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#4016 - 11/13/02 02:55 AM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Apparently no one here has read my posts over a year old now about WinMX.
WinMX is a multinetwork client app now.
Eq, Here is an example of how it works with that. You have been around SZ for a bit now. Others such as myself find you familiar on the board. You can safely consider yourself well within the SZ network of bulletin board service communications. You post a topic, others networked will reply. It works similarly with WinMX but is localized departmentally somewhat. Anotherwards, theres certain folks that stick together who share similar software a/o data products, eg. user: Uploader320 has everything at 320 bitrate. Most of his stuff are full albums. The most important part besides a decent connection is to have something useable to offer others. Once others recognize you they will begin to take you in and you will be bypassing the Queue most times.
WinMX is superior to all other client programs. Probably the only certain exception to that would be the undernets like IRC and mIRC like -tek mentioned. Aquiring files whatever extention they may be is a direct method on the undernet and far more reliable bt it is not as easy to use Don't forget newsgroups too. There's much there too.
See Ya later
MORPH!

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#4017 - 11/13/02 12:02 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Registered: 01/23/99
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Loc: Racine, Wisconsin USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Equalizer:
Cloak-
Your posts would have a much more powerful effect if you tried to construct meaningful sentences.


Blow me, poseur.

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#4018 - 11/13/02 03:07 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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now if cloakboy only had a mohawk and a keystone lite...hed be the punkrockiest
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#4019 - 11/13/02 03:26 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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Sorry, shaved my head last night, so no mohawk. Never had a Keystone Light, I usually drink Lakeside Dark. That might be a local brewery, I don't know.

Oi!

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#4020 - 11/22/02 08:01 PM Re: The Death of File Sharing
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http://mxp2.com

The topic is file sharing? I thought we were talking about boosting copyrighted stuff.

EQ, if you want obscure things that are hard to find, put your WHOLE hand up your butt.

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