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#401394 - 04/15/15 07:21 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401397 - 04/15/15 08:32 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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The demos sound great, especially the drums. A bit too fat in the bass for me, though. Additionally, there does not seem to be a plethora of country or Latin styles available, but I suspect there will be some third party styles that can be added at a later date if and when they become available. As for service, in the US it's AJ ONLY! If AJ decides to do something else, that's pretty much the end of the game for Ketron in the US. All the best, Gary ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif)
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#401411 - 04/15/15 10:30 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401423 - 04/15/15 01:50 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401442 - 04/15/15 11:16 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Is there a manual out for SD7?
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#401443 - 04/16/15 12:26 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401475 - 04/17/15 04:22 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Anthony, I also had the MS40 and its keyboard version the MS50. Great instruments for those days with drums that even today are hard to beat by the other brands. Problem with Ketron,apart from being a small company with a slightly blemished reputation as to service and aftersales is that they continued to develop things based on the same OS as previous models. Hence the Audya is a hideous machine to programme, imagine the old Solton MS50 but with a new multitude of variables. ( parameters).
As to this new SD7 being a Midjay Pro in a box, that would not necessarily be a good thing as I read on many Italian sites and forums how many problems and bugs were encountered by those who purchased one. If you go to the private sales of musical instruments on Italian sites you will find many Midjay Pros on offer. Maybe because they have an eye on the new SD7 but it might also be that they are somehow disenchanted.
Personally I still have an old Ketron X1 alongside my Korg PA800 and I still think that the versatility of this X1, the outstanding drums and some individual samples noticably the blow-sax, musette, etc. is impressive. Mind you to the best of my knowledge the entire ROM sample memory of this X1 does not supersede 24Mb, so the SD7 should be much and much better in every way. Still, the touchscreen so far with Ketron has not been a very reliable construction as compared to Korg, hopefully they have learned from their experiences with the Midjay Pro which also sports ( the same ?) touchscreen. Only time will tell...........
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#401512 - 04/18/15 12:19 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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just heard that the street price here in Europe will be approx. 2800 euros ( just over 3000 dollars) which is a lot of money. Not sure whether it will compete heavily with Korg and Yamaha given its price-tag................
regards, John
2800 euros???.... If its truth is stupidity of Ketron.... SD7=2800 euros and Audya 4=2699 euros??? http://www.thomann.de/gr/ketron_audya_4.htmI hope that its not truth......
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#401519 - 04/18/15 08:35 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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The Ketron SD7 is a nice arranger keyboard in my opinion. It has that live band feel and the audio drums are a nice addition to the overall sound. According to the Ketron website the SD7 has a new sound generation system and after listening to many of the demos I have to say kudos to Ketron for the excellent sounds and styles it provides. The downside is the price obviously. 2800 Euros equals a little over $3,000 although we still don't know the complete specifications and once we do know then the price might be more in line for what you're actually getting. On the bright side the speakers are 20W x 20W which is eight more watts than Yammie arrangers which is a plus. Of course the proof is in the pudding but hopefully the speakers will sound excellent even at high volume. I saw a video demo from Frankfurt Musikmesse and noticed when the guy played the SD7 the keyboard itself bounced around a little bit which probably means the SD7 doesn't weigh very much. That can be a good thing if you've got a bad back but if it weighs next to nothing then that could be a problem if the thing bounces around while you're playing during a live performance. I'm not sure why the specs haven't been released yet but one theory could be that Ketron hasn't finished production yet and so the specs might actually change before it arrives in stores. Either way I think Ketron has succeeded in producing a really nice arranger keyboard but again the price will probably keep some people from purchasing one unless there are more cutting edge features we're not aware of. If it has a sampler and dual sequencers, which I don't think it does by the way, then the price starts to look a little better. It has a dual professional player but that's just for playing various media formats like mp3, wav and midi. The dual professional player is nice in that it can cross-fade between songs and apparently you can also eliminate the vocal track which comes in handy when you just want backing tracks and not the vocals themselves. Sounds are the most important feature of any keyboard and I think that Ketron has hit a home run with the SD7 in that regard. Is it worth $3,000? Well, the Yamaha Tyros 5 retails for $5,299 and you'd be fortunate to get one for under $4,500. On the other hand, the Ketron SD7 sounds possibly better than the Tyros 5 in some instances in my opinion and so the asking price could actually be justifiable. But again we need to know more about the complete specs which will give us a better idea of the overall features and functions which in theory could end up making the SD7 a real bargain when you think about it. I really like the new tonewheel organ sounds too and that in itself boosts the overall value of the keyboard in my estimation. Hopefully there will be many more demos of actual people playing the SD7 which again will give us a better idea of its overall strengths and weaknesses if it has any. Weaknesses that is. I'm sure it won't have USB 3.0 because that would be quite a leap from the Audya's USB 1.1 which costs in excess of $5,000. The SD7 could be considered a high-end arranger keyboard if it has considerable cutting edge features. The sounds are definitely top shelf at least the ones I've heard so far anyway. The SD7 could be a real hit depending on what you get for the price but limited availability in the U.S. could dampen the overall enthusiasm somewhat. It will probably sell fairly well in Europe and Asia though. I wouldn't mind having one just for the onboard speakers which eliminates the need for an external sound source thereby making it an excellent choice for small venues. And its light weight will be a plus for easy portability. If it's as light as a feather then it will probably necessitate the use of velco straps but hopefully there will be a little meat on the bones and it won't come to that. ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif) That's why a list of specifications is so important. Right now we're walking around in the dark so to speak and many of our questions could have already been answered if Ketron was on the ball and had already released the specs. Oh well, hopefully they'll be available soon. On the other hand maybe the specs aren't as promising as we were hoping for and in that case Ketron could be withholding them on purpose because they are less than stellar perhaps? If that is the case then $3,000 (plus tax) could be a deal breaker for more people than originally anticipated. Although Yamaha has a habit of being secretive about certain specifications (wav rom, etc) so this may be the new normal. They keep you guessing which avoids a potential backlash from customers if the specs don't justify the price tag. In other words buy it at your own risk and if you don't like it spend some extra money on shipping and return it. ![eek eek](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/eek.gif) That puts the burden on the customer and not the manufacturer. But in reality a complete list of specifications is vital to make an informed decision. Therefore a company which prides itself in customer service would gladly provide a complete list of specifications because it makes for a more satisfactory experience for consumers. On the other hand a company that keeps customers guessing is probably a company that puts less emphasis on customer service and that can be a detriment to a company's bottom line. Are you taking notes AJ? Just kidding. Ketron is a small company located in Italy and so they might not have a very big staff and their repair shops might be few and far between and for that reason their customer service department is probably limited in scope. In fact I think AJ is the only mouthpiece for Ketron in the US if I'm not mistaken. Having a wider distribution network would increase sales substantially no doubt but in order to do that Ketron would need to start producing more excellent keyboard products that will attract the interest of more people. Of course the cost of the keyboards and modules themselves factor into the equation because if the price tags are too high (for what you get) it can detract from the overall value of the company itself and thereby can keep a company from gaining wider exposure. But I digress.. All the best, Mike
Edited by keybplayer (04/18/15 08:42 AM)
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#401520 - 04/18/15 08:57 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Quite often, good medication for a GAS attack, is to go back and listen to the on-line demos of your current instrument....you know, the ones that made you desire it in the first place. What's also amusing, is someone who buys another brand of arranger, and then spends the first few weeks (or months) trying to make it sound like the old one. ![](http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Winks/j_gaba.gif) Ian
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#401521 - 04/18/15 10:09 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401523 - 04/18/15 10:31 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Quite often, good medication for a GAS attack, is to go back and listen to the on-line demos of your current instrument....you know, the ones that made you desire it in the first place. What's also amusing, is someone who buys another brand of arranger, and then spends the first few weeks (or months) trying to make it sound like the old one. ![](http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Winks/j_gaba.gif) Ian I have to admit, John, that I've been guilty of that latter part myself...ha ha! ![](http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Confused/redface-3.png) Ian
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#401566 - 04/19/15 01:47 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401573 - 04/19/15 03:32 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Basically he said that it has a new user interface which is much more user friendly, many new features, what the end user wants, new big touch display, new styles, with Audio drums and new sounds. He kept repeating it a couple of times. Price little over 2.800 Euros. Just repeating what you already read about. Eric
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#401585 - 04/20/15 07:50 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Donny, 37 pounds, then add another 10 for the keyboard case, and now you're hefting nearly 50 pounds. Nah! Not for me. And for what, live drums? My S950 drums are live enough for my audiences. Gary ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif)
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#401588 - 04/20/15 08:16 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Donny, 37 pounds, then add another 10 for the keyboard case, and now you're hefting nearly 50 pounds. Nah! Not for me. And for what, live drums? My S950 drums are live enough for my audiences. Gary Gary your a style player S950 & Bose compact Forever & ever for YOU,...... ![cool2 cool2](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool2.gif) but for someone who wants to really mix it up on stage with so many playing modes, styles, VH, smf, mp3, dj, fx, separately or simultaneously the SD7 could be a OMB performers powerhouse Kb on stage...we'll see.. ![keys keys](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/keys.gif) personally I'm happy with my current setup,....but as always I have an open mind. Take care..
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#401589 - 04/20/15 08:49 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Donny, from the way I see it the only thing the SD7 would do is add nearly 15 pounds to the keyboard weight, plus audio drums. You can do all the other stuff with the S-950 and a laptop. Oh, the one thing I left out, you can then sell your S-950 for about $1,000 and add another $2,000 of debt burden. How many jobs does it take to make sufficient net profit to cover another $2,000? Of course, the other questions I always ask myself when considering a new piece of gear: Will this new gear really improve what I do every day to the point where it will generate more jobs, more income, more anything? Most of the time the answer is NO! When I purchased that first Bose L1 system I asked myself those same questions. The Bose systems allow me to play larger jobs, while at the same time decrease my equipment weight by a substantial margin. Two positives there. When I upgraded from the PSR-3000 to the S-950, the primary reason was OS versatility, especially with the ability to access style files directly from the USB drive and utilize the MFD from the USB. Additionally, if necessary, I could also play MP3s and link them directly to registrations. On top of everything else, because I primarily play live, the additional voices and styles, plus live drums, really put this in the must have category. Consequently, it made live performances a lot easier and the transition from song to song was much smoother. This was noticed by some of the club owners in the Florida Keys and generated more jobs because I was not fumbling with an I-pad between songs like so many of the other players down there and kept the music flowing for the crowds. That put a lot of checkmarks in the plus column for the S-950. So, I already have the ability to mix it up on stage, same as you, but the load is lighter, and I've $2,000 to piss away sailing Chesapeake Bay this summer. And, I don't have to learn another operating system. All the best, Gary ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif)
Edited by travlin'easy (04/20/15 08:51 AM)
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#401641 - 04/21/15 01:56 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401644 - 04/21/15 03:13 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Don, I'm not driving to Bossier City until you drive to Forest Hill, Maryland, or Marathon Key, Florida. I've been to your place a couple times, now it's your turn. ![wink wink](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/wink.gif) Gary ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif)
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#401653 - 04/22/15 12:07 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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I think, the SD7 is based on the all new Dream SAM5000 series Audio Processors.
Dream® proudly announces a new milestone in Digital Audio Processing
20.01.2015 Today Dream® announes the launch of a new generation of Digital Audio Processing DSPs, the SAM5000 series. Main features of the new series are:
- Up to 256-voice polyphony for crisp sound synthesis using proven DSP-Array® architecture - Huge soundbanks in up to 8 GByte NAND Flash - Copy protected sound banks, on the fly AES format decryption - 56-bit accuracy, specific hardware accelerated DSP Audio instructions - SW compatible to the landmark 3000 series - Up to two independent USB 2.0 High Speed ports - Ethernet MAC on chip - S/PDIF Interface
Regards,
Carlo Not having USB3 support allready shows that it would be wiser to choose for an intel processor... USB3 allows for real time audio connections to Computers, allowing 16 or even 32 channels audio up and down in real time for DSP processing.. With current prices there is no single reason not to choose for the performance of an intel CPU set... And thats something current music hardware producers havent understood yet ( exception Korg Kronos). Anyway, only choosing intel (or compatible amd) will push performance forward... On top of that, this set will not be seen in hardware in the comming two years, all new hardware has a development cycle, it will take some time... And thats another good thing of Intel, its backward compatible... I can develop on older hardware and in the end upgrade to new CPU and mainboard/memmory.. The hardware controll layer is independant of the software layer...
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#401698 - 04/23/15 04:39 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401699 - 04/23/15 04:48 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#401706 - 04/23/15 09:17 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Ye, drums are great of course, nothing new really for me being an Audya 5 owner, actually less as SD7 omits the audio guitars, audio bass guitars
upgrade my Audya 5 with a touchscreen, much more RAM, SSD, super fast CPU, new OS, more RH sounds, let us add our own audio guitars, make it lighter, and THEN we are talking advancement in the Arranger world!!!
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#401707 - 04/23/15 09:23 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Ye, drums are great of course, nothing new really for me being an Audya 5 owner, actually less as SD7 omits the audio guitars, audio bass guitars
upgrade my Audya 5 with a touchscreen, much more RAM, SSD, super fast CPU, new OS, more RH sounds, let us add our own audio guitars, make it lighter, and THEN we are talking advancement in the Arranger world!!! There is one important thing we learn from the SD7, touchscreens work well for arrangers... Now lets tell that to Yamaha..
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#401708 - 04/23/15 09:53 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Spalding, I'm with you on this one. I believe arranger keyboards may have hit their pinnacle, or at least they are very close to it. As an entertainer, there's really not much more I can ask of the keyboard that has not already been provided. Cheers, Gary ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif)
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#401709 - 04/23/15 09:54 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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upgrade my Audya 5 with a touchscreen, much more RAM, SSD, super fast CPU, new OS, more RH sounds, let us add our own audio guitars, make it lighter, and THEN we are talking advancement in the Arranger world!!!
For Yamaha, that would be at least three generations of Tyros's ![smile smile](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/smile.gif) . Tyros 8, anyone? chas
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#401730 - 04/24/15 05:09 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
[Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Actually, electronic keyboards seem to be going back to their roots, which explains the recent hardware modular synthesizers like Moog 55 and Roland's System M1. Also, there's a plethora of VST's emulating early analog synths, vintage combo organs and electric pianos which seem to appeal to the younger users who missed out on their hardware counterparts.
I can see "live" analog control being added to more arrangers, like filter cutoff and ADSR generators, if its inclusion on lower priced arrangers (Yamaha's PSRE-series e.g.) is any indication.
I can definitely see Gary's point, especially since the several year old arranger I presently use could fulfill my needs well into the future, hardware failure limitations being the only issue. Styles and sounds are editable so keeping it fresh is just a matter of digging in and doing some programming.
I think of it this way...do I really need something that allegedly surpasses the instrument I have now, or am I just buying to get something different and to satisfy my inner acquisition urge?
What can't I do with my current instrument that I need to do on a new one? Are the new sounds, timbres that I will actually use, or do they just make impressive listening?
Are the extra functions/features on the new instruments really that necessary, or, am I only concerned with making one or two things relatively easier, even though I’m managing to get by quite nicely with a comparatively painless workaround?
So far, nothing new (arranger-wise) has remotely impressed me, and I'm kinda glad, as the money can be used for other pursuits, and the time I'd otherwise spend learning a new (and perhaps even more complicated) operating system might be far better spent either fully utilizing the present one or, improving my playing skills.
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#401923 - 05/01/15 10:05 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
[Re: Ketron_AJ]
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There are many additional features that could be added to arrangers but I think it's a case of milking the current standards to death. The Big Three i.e. Yammie, Roland and Korg have so far refused to up the ante regarding polyphony on arrangers. The SD7 has 128 note polyphony even though manufacturers know for a fact that note drop off can and does occur on keyboards with 128 note polyphony. Why are they still stuck in the 20th century when it comes to polyphony? The simple answer, to me at least, is that they continue to "milk" an otherwise obsolete standard for all it's worth even though musicians of all stripes have begged them to increase the polyphony for the last decade or longer.
USB 3/3.1 is another new standard that continues to be ignored by keyboard manufacturers. Much to the chagrin of keyboard players I might add too. Ketron had the initiative and foresight to increase the polyphony on the Audya but there is no Audya 2 waiting in the wings as far as I know. 256 note polyphony is a must for today's full featured keyboards and especially for full featured arranger keyboards which eat up polyphony real real fast. But to this day the Big Three continue to rest on their laurels when it comes to polyphony, which makes you wonder whether the Big Three are more concerned about themselves or the actual customers they're supposed to represent who in this case are being ignored basically. It seems they are more concerned about themselves i.e. their own bottom line rather than the needs and wishes of consumers who without them would not even be in business in the first place.
It appears the SD7 does NOT have a Sequencer which is kind of disturbing. A sequencer is a necessary feature for an arranger in my opinion. I was hoping it would have a Sampler at that price but it's surprising it also lacks a Sequencer too apparently.
Arrangers could also utilize new storage technology such as SSD (solid state drives). That way you could stream live content, such as VSTi's (virtual instruments) for sounds and even videos which could then be routed to an external source during live performances. Audio Drums and audio Styles are nice but having the ability to stream live content could revolutionize the industry even as the Korg Kronos/2 has recently demonstrated. But alas the Kronos is not an arranger obviously and so far Yamaha, Roland and Korg (and Ketron) seem quite content not to rock the boat when it comes to their arranger keyboard lines. Oh well..
Indifference probably plays a part in the scheme of things but overall I'd have to say it's more a matter of "milking" something to death before they finally decide to rise to the occasion to provide consumers the features and functions they've yearned for, in some cases, for decades to acquire, but continue to get the stiff shoulder which is truly unfortunate.
Having said that I still think the SD7 is a reasonable choice if you don't already own a higher-end arranger. The sounds are really nice but obviously the price is kind of steep plus it doesn't have a sequencer as far as I understand which could be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
All the best,
Mike
Edited by keybplayer (05/01/15 10:17 AM)
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#401924 - 05/01/15 10:16 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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I have not run out of polyphony in the past 15 years or so, so it is not a factor for me. There are different ways of allocating the notes regarding priority, so maybe they have gotten better at that as well. I suppose if you layer multiple voices, leave the sustain on, use busy styles, etc., all at the same time you might run out of notes, but I don't do that. Solid state drive is in my Korg PA900. Solid state drive is available for Ketrons. My USB drives work instantly for what I use them for. I don't interface with PC except to transfer files, and I most generally do that by taking the USB gizmo and plugging it into the computer. I think the "big 3" in arrangers will have to move on without Roland, at least for now. They have no current top of the line arranger, and the BK9, although very good, has many limitations. If there is a big 3, then Ketron is the third, and smallest of the companies. If one is primarily interested in home or studio recording, using VSTs, multiple layers, multiple recording tracks, etc., then probably the best way to go would be computer software.
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#401926 - 05/01/15 10:47 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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I have never run out of polyphony on the Tyros4 and I use layered sounds and custom styles revoiced with lots of pads, mega-voices, and SA/SA2 sounds, especially for my Freestyle styles.
I guess it is possible, but so far, not a problem, even when using multi-layered RH and a LH sound.
Back in the old 64-note poly days (my old PSR-8000) it was an issue for sure, but as DonM says above, they seem to have got better at allocating voices.
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#401938 - 05/02/15 05:47 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Arrangers could also utilize new storage technology such as SSD (solid state drives). That way you could stream live content, such as VSTi's (virtual instruments) for sounds and even videos which could then be routed to an external source during live performances. Audio Drums and audio Styles are nice but having the ability to stream live content could revolutionize the industry.
The SD7 is all of the above. It has onboard Solid State storage; Not sure how much, there is 8.5gb used from the factory and 92% free. You can also install the optional 250gb SSD if more space is required The SD7 displays video, images, text or PDF files to an external digital projector or screen via the DVI-I port on the rear (great if your into Kjay). You can mirror the on board screen or display other content to your audience. I am not certain of the speed of the SD7 USB, I backed up all 8.5gb to my laptop in just a few seconds. Dont forget with newer Ketron products, polyphony is not so relavent because aspects that use polyphony in other manufacturers arrangers (styles) are live and so do not use the built in sound engine. You have to use some serious sustain and alot of layers to run out of polyphony on a modern instrument. If you are that specialist and require more than 128 notes (unlikely in my oppinion) Ketron offer additional sound modules (eg SD2/SD1000) for little money that could be used easily with your current arranger. Regarding Sequencer, with so many good quality (and low cost/free) sequencer programs available on PC, Mac, Linux and probably even Android, Ketron felt it was no longer relavent on a modern arranger. Some will no doubt disagree but but these are a minority and the majority will be happy not to pay for the development of software they are never likely to use.
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#401939 - 05/02/15 06:06 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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...the majority will be happy not to pay for the development of software they are never likely to use. I agree with software doing a much better job for a sequencer, but the rather high price of SD7 makes quite difficult to understand the above statement! 2.900 euro for a Ketron with 61 keys, no sampler, no sequencer and ONLY audio drums is a lot. As always, just my 2 cents.
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#401946 - 05/02/15 09:20 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
[Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Arrangers could also utilize new storage technology such as SSD (solid state drives). That way you could stream live content, such as VSTi's (virtual instruments) for sounds and even videos which could then be routed to an external source during live performances. Audio Drums and audio Styles are nice but having the ability to stream live content could revolutionize the industry.
The SD7 is all of the above. It has onboard Solid State storage; Not sure how much, there is 8.5gb used from the factory and 92% free. You can also install the optional 250gb SSD if more space is required The SD7 displays video, images, text or PDF files to an external digital projector or screen via the DVI-I port on the rear (great if your into Kjay). You can mirror the on board screen or display other content to your audience. I am not certain of the speed of the SD7 USB, I backed up all 8.5gb to my laptop in just a few seconds. Dont forget with newer Ketron products, polyphony is not so relavent because aspects that use polyphony in other manufacturers arrangers (styles) are live and so do not use the built in sound engine. You have to use some serious sustain and alot of layers to run out of polyphony on a modern instrument. If you are that specialist and require more than 128 notes (unlikely in my oppinion) Ketron offer additional sound modules (eg SD2/SD1000) for little money that could be used easily with your current arranger. Regarding Sequencer, with so many good quality (and low cost/free) sequencer programs available on PC, Mac, Linux and probably even Android, Ketron felt it was no longer relavent on a modern arranger. Some will no doubt disagree but but these are a minority and the majority will be happy not to pay for the development of software they are never likely to use. That polyphony statement only goes for ketron instruments with audio styles... The sd7 only has audio drums, so its less prone in saving some polyphony by its styles.. In general 128 notes of polyphony or more is only an issue when you have several layers of piano with damper pedals...
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#402022 - 05/04/15 11:26 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
[Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Hi Bachus.
Unlike the Audya 4, 5, 8 and 76 key (which are all identical with the exception of some hardware differences such as keys) there are differences in the way the MidJay Pro and SD7 operate...and there are also many similarities too. The two instruments are aimed at different users - The Midjay is for performers, vocalists, K-Jays and multi media entertainers but can be used as an arranger module, The SD7 is primarily for keyboard/arranger players but can be used for K-Jay, backing and general multimedia entertainment.
The Operating System of the SD7 has been adjusted to suit an arranger keyboard and this is the most obvious difference when using either product.
This is also evident in other areas with carefull thought to which hardware options (buttons/sliders) are located on the top panel and which are on in the various on screen menu. The SD7 has the all important hardware arranger buttons below the screen whilst these are located on the arranger screen of the MidJay Pro (in my oppinion actual buttons are vital for an arranger keyboard).
I have not compared sounds and styles, but there are definately different styles on the SD7, wether these will be added to the Midjay Pro it remains to be seen.
The SD7 has not been in long enough to tell you any more - but if anything obvious comes up will let you know.
thanks for answering mate... Problem with ketron instrumenst is that there are so many things that are not in the specs lists that it sometimes is hard to see differences between instruments.. Still the instruemnt is quite expensive, even more expensive as an audya 4 in the only shop around here that still sells ketron. And only a few euros less expensive then the audya 5... Hope to get my hands on an SD7 soon, because espescially the touch inteface looks like a dream and could easilly be the best available in any keyboard.
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#402085 - 05/07/15 06:09 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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On the topic of polyphony ... a couple of things ... on my Tyros3 then Tyros5, I only remember one situation that caused notes to noticeably drop out. I'll have to see if I can re-create it and record it. I think it was one of the styles like "Epic Ballad" or similar, that was very thickly orchestrated ... and had cymbal rolls and/or tympani rolls ... when I coupled that with a thick sound in my right hand (all three R1+R2+R3 all acive, and a sound in LEFT also) - then when I called for a Fill In, I think in Variation C which had that cymbol-roll or tympani roll - all this together did cause a bunch of notes to suddenly truncate. Other than that, I don't recall noticing it happen, but I understand how it could.
Also, Yamaha has done a nice thing on the newest CVP pianos (CVP-609 in particular), where there are TWO sound engines - one for pianos and a few other sounds, at 128 note polyphony, I think they call this the "Natural!" sounds. PLUS another sound engine that is sort a "Tyros4 in the box" that is 128 more notes of polyphony. This helps spread the polyphony around (total of 256 notes of polyphony).
I think they might have planned to have this on the Tyros5 also, as the Data List for the Tyros5 originally listed a whole bunch of "Natural!" voices, but turns out the Tyros5 in fact had no "Natural!" voices. I wonder if they planned for it, but didn't get it all to work in time for the ship date for the T5?
If that's the case, perhaps the Tyros6 will have the TWO sound engines, and thus 256 note polyphony???
Jim
Edited by jimlaing (05/07/15 06:10 AM)
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#402272 - 05/10/15 01:39 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#402277 - 05/10/15 05:01 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#402426 - 05/14/15 08:47 AM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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What you said about the same songs on different keyboards---
You are absolutely right. I have about 150 tunes I do from memory, as well as hundreds that I read or glance at.
As well as many others, I have my "core" songs on my five gigging keyboards. VOILA!
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#402473 - 05/15/15 02:28 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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#402640 - 05/21/15 11:22 AM
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#402667 - 05/22/15 05:06 PM
Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!!
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Donny, take some of that ill gained cash that's burning a hole in your pocket, hop on a plane, fly to Detroit and check it out personally, then let us know what you think. Gary ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default_dark/cool.gif)
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