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#401927 - 05/01/15 11:46 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: keybplayer]
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Originally Posted By: keybplayer
... are more concerned about themselves or the actual customers they're supposed to represent


Nothing surprising or unnatural.

Anyway, they definitely do not represent the customers. No business does. They only represent the owners/management and their strategies.
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#401936 - 05/02/15 01:32 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Just to let you know Ketron UK are uploading audio demo's to their facebook page. We have an SD7 here in the UK so if you have any questions feel free to ask

https://www.facebook.com/ketron.uk

Darren

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#401938 - 05/02/15 05:47 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: keybplayer]
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Originally Posted By: keybplayer

Arrangers could also utilize new storage technology such as SSD (solid state drives). That way you could stream live content, such as VSTi's (virtual instruments) for sounds and even videos which could then be routed to an external source during live performances. Audio Drums and audio Styles are nice but having the ability to stream live content could revolutionize the industry.


The SD7 is all of the above. It has onboard Solid State storage; Not sure how much, there is 8.5gb used from the factory and 92% free. You can also install the optional 250gb SSD if more space is required

The SD7 displays video, images, text or PDF files to an external digital projector or screen via the DVI-I port on the rear (great if your into Kjay). You can mirror the on board screen or display other content to your audience.

I am not certain of the speed of the SD7 USB, I backed up all 8.5gb to my laptop in just a few seconds.

Dont forget with newer Ketron products, polyphony is not so relavent because aspects that use polyphony in other manufacturers arrangers (styles) are live and so do not use the built in sound engine. You have to use some serious sustain and alot of layers to run out of polyphony on a modern instrument. If you are that specialist and require more than 128 notes (unlikely in my oppinion) Ketron offer additional sound modules (eg SD2/SD1000) for little money that could be used easily with your current arranger.

Regarding Sequencer, with so many good quality (and low cost/free) sequencer programs available on PC, Mac, Linux and probably even Android, Ketron felt it was no longer relavent on a modern arranger. Some will no doubt disagree but but these are a minority and the majority will be happy not to pay for the development of software they are never likely to use.

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#401939 - 05/02/15 06:06 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude
...the majority will be happy not to pay for the development of software they are never likely to use.


I agree with software doing a much better job for a sequencer, but the rather high price of SD7 makes quite difficult to understand the above statement!

2.900 euro for a Ketron with 61 keys, no sampler, no sequencer and ONLY audio drums is a lot.

As always, just my 2 cents.
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#401943 - 05/02/15 09:01 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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In addition to audio drums it also has "traditional" midi drums.
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#401944 - 05/02/15 09:08 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Tonewheeldude]
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Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude
Just to let you know Ketron UK are uploading audio demo's to their facebook page. We have an SD7 here in the UK so if you have any questions feel free to ask

https://www.facebook.com/ketron.uk

Darren


Excellent! Thanks for sharing this information.
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#401946 - 05/02/15 09:20 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Tonewheeldude]
Bachus Offline
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Originally Posted By: Tonewheeldude
Originally Posted By: keybplayer

Arrangers could also utilize new storage technology such as SSD (solid state drives). That way you could stream live content, such as VSTi's (virtual instruments) for sounds and even videos which could then be routed to an external source during live performances. Audio Drums and audio Styles are nice but having the ability to stream live content could revolutionize the industry.


The SD7 is all of the above. It has onboard Solid State storage; Not sure how much, there is 8.5gb used from the factory and 92% free. You can also install the optional 250gb SSD if more space is required

The SD7 displays video, images, text or PDF files to an external digital projector or screen via the DVI-I port on the rear (great if your into Kjay). You can mirror the on board screen or display other content to your audience.

I am not certain of the speed of the SD7 USB, I backed up all 8.5gb to my laptop in just a few seconds.

Dont forget with newer Ketron products, polyphony is not so relavent because aspects that use polyphony in other manufacturers arrangers (styles) are live and so do not use the built in sound engine. You have to use some serious sustain and alot of layers to run out of polyphony on a modern instrument. If you are that specialist and require more than 128 notes (unlikely in my oppinion) Ketron offer additional sound modules (eg SD2/SD1000) for little money that could be used easily with your current arranger.

Regarding Sequencer, with so many good quality (and low cost/free) sequencer programs available on PC, Mac, Linux and probably even Android, Ketron felt it was no longer relavent on a modern arranger. Some will no doubt disagree but but these are a minority and the majority will be happy not to pay for the development of software they are never likely to use.


That polyphony statement only goes for ketron instruments with audio styles... The sd7 only has audio drums, so its less prone in saving some polyphony by its styles..

In general 128 notes of polyphony or more is only an issue when you have several layers of piano with damper pedals...
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#401947 - 05/02/15 10:37 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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i made a mistake - the contents of the built in storage amounted to 82mb not 8.2gb - which is a bit different...sorry. Even so it still transferred quickly.

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#401948 - 05/02/15 11:20 AM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Tonewheel dude...can you post some Realworld demos of your own here for us to hear..styles & sounds?

Also can you explain how the OS handles song registrations, setups, saving, and song-list features as navigation is very important to a player in real time..?

and third....tell us about the Vocal harmony features..as of yet I haven't seen or heard this DEMOED anywhere...
these are very important things.

thanx

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#401949 - 05/02/15 01:02 PM Re: It's finally here ... the new KETRON SD7 !!! [Re: Ketron_AJ]
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Video would be great with direct audio.
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