Reasons why I am not interested in replacing the Roland G70.

Yes I have tried other keyboards...just about all of them,
and there are always things I will not give up..

I will firstly re affirm why I think an Arranger keyboard is
the only way to go.
Work flow and flexibility out performs any workstation..

For me the benefits I get with the G70...Still the best semi weighted
key pad...
6 Tones available at all times, and 3 split zones..all with velocity
switching or pedal control..

One touch settings are like mini performances..you can
actually set up all 6 tones and effects for each of the
four, one touch settings..

I prefer not to use one touch settings..because I like using
the 16 category buttons to select different tones( like having 16 tones
instead of the standard 4...).

I have no doubt, many G70 owners, have not realized the many features
they have at their finger tips..Making some real bargain prices on used G70's.

Here are a few more things that the G70 does, that are not well known...

You can edit/change all the preset styles, including separate eq..save all the edits on a
external memory..keep the exact names of the styles and save as a rom file..
Now you can replace the ROM styles internally..with all your selections and edits..

If you like to use performances (User programs)..You are not limited to 144 slots,
in the user program, but you can select from any user program on your external
memory...limited only by the size of your memory source..

The tone edits in a style or SMF, are the best..I like to change the velocity of drums..
this allows the velocity switching of the drums to come alive..
Also changing eq live is easy..want to deepen that bass..bingo , easy to do..
Make up tools are super..with the touchscreen..

If you want to switch to another gear while playing dance music..
Use your covers..select bass and pick a synth bass tab, or drums and select a hip hop
kit..it takes a few seconds..all in real time..

If you are looking for a different overall feel of a style..an example, you are playing
a style or SMF, with a lot of brass..switch to guitar tab in covers, and you have that
Elvis sound..

Speaking of Elvis, there is a great Elvis trio selection in the harmonizer (vocal)..

Add this to your Elvis cover change...perfect..

The G70 harmonizer is the most mis understood feature...There are so many edits to make it
just right, and easily saved..I have seen my pro friends listen to a default setting for a
few seconds, and say nay...then take 3 months trying to set up their own keyboard..

G70 has a vocoder in vocal harmony...and it is not your old Korg vocoder..
most folks pass over this, and it is the best harmonizer I have found..if you play your
own voicing...
Edit wise you have 4 voice zones with it's own editable options including degree of gender..

If you haven't tried it..you missed the boat...Don't forget to select "your voice"..

I have mentioned many times about the G70 vocal harmonizer being smart..reading
chords from all the sources, automatically..No switch a SMF track for a chord, or selecting
another choice for style play..All of the different selections in harmony are active
with front panel buttons and touch screen...
All the settings are easily saved in user program..

I love using arranger keyboards, but use differently than most folks..
over done busy styles..scream fake to me..they leave no room to play, and take away
respect you could obtain via playing..

I like to strip down a style, resulting in more believable, and realistic sound...
I also retain the same players....like if it was a real band...

I like to link a style and a SMF together...the G70 can switch between style a SMF smoothly.
Keep the tempo the same..also the one touch settings are available with this concept.
Four markers allow for added flexibility..
I also assign buttons to switch off arranger and play left hand bass(or just auto bass
with drums)..

Another great feature, the singer key, sets your vocal range and will automatically select
the key for you SMF...works great,,

Hopefully this post enlightens G70 players and also give you some ideas to use with
your keyboard choice..

I agree with most of what you are saying. Korg also does most of these things very well.
Too bad Roland doesn't see a need for Break/fills! Because I certainly do and don't want to have to rewrite every style.

If the G70 works for you why get a new keyboard?
I have been a KORG supporter for 35 years and they let me down many times, for example, my Pa800 cpu board died and is discontinued, forced to buy new?

I liked My G70. Did so many things great.... But at 49lbs was a bit to much to gig in/out every day and 76 keys long.

I am teaching my two nefews on a G70, i advised my sister to buy it for the high quallity keybed..

I can understand Frans enthousiasme because its true, there are so many things of the G70 that still rock. But compared to my T5 its clearly showing its age when it comes to totall sound quallity...

Fran I too have always loved Roland products. I still have an RD700 that feels and almost sounds like my real grand. Any more the weight factor jumps in there. And I have had great success with Yamaha products.

Joe

The G70 weighs 46 pounds,,,the E80 weighs 49 pounds..

I like most things about the G70, I have mine since 2008 bought used (demo model) in the UK.

1) The build is top class,the weight should not be an issue.
(The B3 is about 450 pounds and I never hear much criticism of it's weight)

2) The sounds are all top class, effects are good.

3) The key feel is excellent

I probably could go on for awhile with more pluses but to cut to the chase, I am not happy about the supply of good usuable styles that are available,

Most of the styles I obtain are rehashes of other Roland products. I do have a BK 7 and yes I have transferred styles to the G70, whilst most work ok, some have "gremlins" which I cant resolve.

That said, I would appreciate if members (Roland lovers) could point me in the direction of a good suppler of decent G70 styles....END OF RANT...

Frank

A smaller G70 could put Roland on top again today ...

... isn't there an "antique arranger" forum you could post in? There are a lot of deaf ears here when ever you start a sentence with "My G-70 ..."