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#406296 - 08/04/15 08:29 AM Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6?
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Will these new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6?
It will be interesting to see what comes next From Yamaha in a
Tyros 6 or beyond. At any rate it should be amazing.

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#406298 - 08/04/15 08:31 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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It will be 2017 or 2018 before we even hear rumors about a Tyros 6 right?
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#406300 - 08/04/15 08:34 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By: guitpic1
It will be 2017 or 2018 before we even hear rumors about a Tyros 6 right?


It could be as soon as WINTER NAMM 2016 or before,....just sayin.. cool2

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#406302 - 08/04/15 08:37 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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You are hearing a rumor as we speak! smile
I think there will not be another Tyros. I think Yamaha may finally make a significant change. Just conjecture though, I have no reason to think this other than my advanced intelligence level.
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#406304 - 08/04/15 08:43 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: DonM]
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It certainly would make sense to sell just one keyboard that was capable of accepting upgrades...be it hardware or software.

This reminds me of the IBM stance on computers way back in the beginning. IBM said the money was in building computers and hardware. Microsoft maintained that the money was in software.

Somewhere along the line some Company is going to market an arranger that is really upgradable, and only excepts that company's software and hardware .

When that happens, that company will be the new Microsoft of arrangers/keyboards.
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#406309 - 08/04/15 09:20 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: guitpic1]
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Originally Posted By: guitpic1
It certainly would make sense to sell just one keyboard that was capable of accepting upgrades...be it hardware or software.

This reminds me of the IBM stance on computers way back in the beginning. IBM said the money was in building computers and hardware. Microsoft maintained that the money was in software.

Somewhere along the line some Company is going to market an arranger that is really upgradable, and only excepts that company's software and hardware .

When that happens, that company will be the new Microsoft of arrangers/keyboards.


You may be right. I think I'll just check with Liontracs, or Gem, or several other companies whose names I can't quite remember. hmmmm.

chas
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#406310 - 08/04/15 09:22 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: guitpic1]
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I would think some of the new features, like perhaps the DJ function and live knob control, would make their way to the next Tyros model. Yamaha is trying to appeal more to the younger generation and be more ethnic diverse in this changing world.

The new S970 audio styles and most of the others have the same name as the Tyros 5. The S970 Data List PDF shows the style list, but doesn't specify the audio styles, but generally they are listed at the top of each category.

Any new S970 owner will love the new DSPs like the Real Reverb and Distortion. The Real Drums and Real Brushes kits are really nice too. I see more of the Tyros 5 choir and vocal voices found their way into this new board, and more than likely into the styles as well. I see a few new style names, especially the DJ styles in the World style category, more than likely to be used with the new DJ feature.

I would think the nice light S970 would be a very good value, but I think just as important is what features made there way into the S970 from the Tyros 5. Have fun whatever board suit you.

Marcus
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#406311 - 08/04/15 09:29 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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It's hard to find an S970 demo using anything BUT the audio drum styles. Why is that? Maybe they make the midi drums sound even worse.
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#406312 - 08/04/15 09:43 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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Personally, I like the audio styles on the S950 - really sound great, at least to me.

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#406314 - 08/04/15 09:51 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: DonM]
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Originally Posted By: DonM
It's hard to find an S970 demo using anything BUT the audio drum styles. Why is that? Maybe they make the midi drums sound even worse.

I agree Don,.....I guess they are targeting the younger audience and don't want to show their great OOM Pa Pa styles to them and ruin sales marketing...I'm sure Yamaha has done extensive research and know what they are doing to make money like they always have....arranger KB's are a minuscule part of their company.
personally I'm satisfied with what they have out now. BIG changes sell gear not these little baby steps model to model IMO.

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#406316 - 08/04/15 09:53 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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Donny, those so called Baby Steps have obviously done a great job for Yamaha. They are still the top seller of arranger keyboards in the entire world, aren't they? Hey, how many folks have already pre-ordered their S-970? And, that's just those on this and the PSR Tutorial forum. Bet Frankie V can't get them in and out the door fast enough to satisfy the demand.

Good luck,

Gary cool


Edited by travlin'easy (08/04/15 09:55 AM)
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#406318 - 08/04/15 10:03 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: travlin'easy]
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Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Donny, those so called Baby Steps have obviously done a great job for Yamaha. They are still the top seller of arranger keyboards in the entire world, aren't they? Hey, how many folks have already pre-ordered their S-970? And, that's just those on this and the PSR Tutorial forum. Bet Frankie V can't get them in and out the door fast enough to satisfy the demand.

Good luck,

Gary cool


No Doubt Gary,..yes the throngs of loyal Yamaha players will always buy no matter what & that is a good thing. I just wish they would get a bit more aggressive in their upgrades.......

Have a great Day keys

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#406319 - 08/04/15 10:07 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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#406326 - 08/04/15 11:15 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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#406330 - 08/04/15 11:42 AM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: Dnj]
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Kidding aside.
If I didn't have a keyboard I would be very interested in s950 because of all expansions.The only thing is I do believe they still didn't upgrade keyboard action.Which is a big shame.
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#406333 - 08/04/15 12:45 PM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: mirza]
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Are not most manufacturers upgrading their product in steps as technology advances? Would it not be effective when creating a new line or product, that platform gets maxed out to keep cost in line?

The other issue is, you want your previous created content to be compatible with the new model if one chooses to upgrade. A whole new revolutionary concept would force a user to start pretty much from the beginning trying to fit the new technology into past arrangements, or song set.

At least with gradual upgrades, one can choose to skip a model or two where suddenly these baby steps are quite impressive. I have no reason to change brands, because I know the Yamaha OS and all my previous content, midi files, styles, multipads, etc., should all be compatible or upgradable with a new model. Just my own take on the subject.

Regards, Marcus
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#406334 - 08/04/15 01:01 PM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: cgiles]
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Originally Posted By: cgiles
Originally Posted By: guitpic1
It certainly would make sense to sell just one keyboard that was capable of accepting upgrades...be it hardware or software.

This reminds me of the IBM stance on computers way back in the beginning. IBM said the money was in building computers and hardware. Microsoft maintained that the money was in software.

Somewhere along the line some Company is going to market an arranger that is really upgradable, and only excepts that company's software and hardware .

When that happens, that company will be the new Microsoft of arrangers/keyboards.


You may be right. I think I'll just check with Liontracs, or Gem, or several other companies whose names I can't quite remember. hmmmm.

chas


Good point Chas. if it didn't work in the past, it's certain that no one will try it in the future.

crazy


Edited by guitpic1 (08/04/15 01:02 PM)
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#406337 - 08/04/15 01:15 PM Re: Will new S970 features be part of the NEW TYROS 6? [Re: guitpic1]
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Combine the new S970 features with the reface, and you can guess what te direction of the Tyros 6 will be...


Tough i also heared that there would be no Tyros 6 but that it would be named differently, just like the Montage replacing the Motif... yamaha is taking a step up in hardware performance, and with that the name of their game changes..
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