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#407873 - 09/06/15 01:59 PM
Re: Devastated
[Re: Bachus]
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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Here it is, the gear you should keep an eye out for...
Korg Kronos 88,
Yamaha Tyros5, Motif XSr, FS1C, EX5r,
Roland Integra7, VsynthXT, D550, System 1m,
Technics WSA1,
waldorf pulse,
Nord modular G2,
Oberheim Matrix 1000,
Kawai K5000r,
Access Virus Ti2 rack,
Ensoniq ESQm
novation Zero SL Mk2
Behringer X32
When you look at that list you realise there is a lot of unreplacable stuff there, the moduels where more of an investment but they where so much fun to tinker with..
If anyone sees them together in an advertisement.. Online... Just link me up..
Edited by Bachus (09/06/15 02:00 PM)
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#407887 - 09/06/15 06:14 PM
Re: Devastated
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
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Bachus ... I know the feeling, as when we were still living in Staten Island NY, our home was broken into, and I am sure they went out the back as we were coming in the front ... and this was in a neighborhood where there are only 20 feet of property between houses ...
Unfortunately, the feeling of being violated stays around for a while ... we had an alarm put in immediately after, just to make us feel a little safer when we were away, and had one put into the house we built in RI ...
It certainly looks like whoever it was knew what they were taking, otherwise why bother with all the music gear ...
Of course I can't speak for your insurance policy, but I know that with many here in the US, as long as yu do not use the instruments 'professionally' the policy will cover the items - with a deductible of course ... however, if they are used 'professionally', they have to be individually listed on the policy ...
But, as chas said we all should check our insurance policy ...
I have to say, when I saw the topic subject I thought I was going to read about another health problem ... fortunately, no one was physically injured ...
I wish you the best ...
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#407893 - 09/06/15 07:08 PM
Re: Devastated
[Re: Bachus]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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When we first moved into our home, some young kid in the neighborhood, who was on drugs big time, tripped out ourdoor, heat sensitive flood lights, which lights up the entire perimeter of the house, plus the parking area. He was hoping to siphon some gas out of my van, had a gas can and a length of hose. I was still working for the state police back then, sneaked up behind him and yelled freeze! I thing he must have messed his pants when he saw that .38 pointed at him. I took him home to his parents, but apparently that did stop his drug habit. He died about 10 years later from a heroin overdose. Those lights are a great deterrent to people, but the deer have grown quite accustomed to them. We also have an alarm system in the house as well - just to be on the safe side. I sold my old .38 when I left the Maryland State Police, and replaced it with a Remington 1148 12-ga and a .22 mag derringer. Better safe than sorry. Those that have visited my home know that you cannot see the house from the roadway, which I sincerely believe is a blessing. No one seems to want to walk down that 300-foot driveway to see what's waiting for them at the other end. Really sorry to hear of your loss, and I sincerely hope the bastards that did this are apprehended and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I know you have many, many years invested in your equipment and that, unfortunately, is not replaceable by insurance. Good luck, Gary
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!
K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#407908 - 09/07/15 05:01 AM
Re: Devastated
[Re: Bachus]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Bachus, this whole theft thing is the shits, man. I hope it works out for you and things actually end up improving (as they sometimes do). Fortunately, I am in a secure apartment building, but the threat of theft was always looming when I lived at my own house, despite extensive security measures (I sometimes had prototypes at the house).
Good luck, sir.
Ian
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Yamaha Tyros4, Yamaha MS-60S Powered Monitors(2), Yamaha CS-01, Yamaha TQ-5, Yamaha PSR-S775.
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#407916 - 09/07/15 07:17 AM
Re: Devastated
[Re: Bachus]
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Senior Member
Registered: 07/21/05
Posts: 5393
Loc: English Riviera, UK
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That’s bad news and I hope they get the culprits, however it seems like a targeted attack rather than random, so the police may already have a file on the perpetrators. (Over here in the UK you can get free advice from the crime prevention service to reduce the risk of theft, (Including how to disguise details of where you are online) and if you have something like that over there I suggest you make full use of it, as it will help to give you more peace of mind)
The 2nd point is to never accept what the insurance company says you are entitled too, (No matter what the small print says) but instead enter into negotiations with them to get the best deal. (Hopefully you will be able to resolve the situation quickly so that you can move forward)
Bill
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English Riviera:
Live entertainment, Real Ale, Great Scenery, Great Beaches, why would anyone want to live anywhere else (I�m definitely staying put).
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#407924 - 09/07/15 09:02 AM
Re: Devastated
[Re: abacus]
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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That’s bad news and I hope they get the culprits, however it seems like a targeted attack rather than random, so the police may already have a file on the perpetrators. (Over here in the UK you can get free advice from the crime prevention service to reduce the risk of theft, (Including how to disguise details of where you are online) and if you have something like that over there I suggest you make full use of it, as it will help to give you more peace of mind)
The 2nd point is to never accept what the insurance company says you are entitled too, (No matter what the small print says) but instead enter into negotiations with them to get the best deal. (Hopefully you will be able to resolve the situation quickly so that you can move forward)
Bill
I talked to the police yesterday, and they have a good indication who was resposible, a gang of professional Bulgarian burglars, mobsters, that plague the area, they have inside information and know exactly where to hit and when.. The gear is probably allready in eastern europe, they are so hard to catch because they never stay long in the Netherlands but get replaced by other mobsters of their gang. and most importantly never sell their stuff here.. And no, i dont give the insurance company any leverage, i will fight my moneys worth..
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#407968 - 09/07/15 10:22 PM
Re: Devastated
[Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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Did you have an alarm system? Yes, but its ancient, never tought about replacing it, we live in a really safe neighbourhood, i havent put it on in ages.. Yes i know, sloppy... Also did they take many other items NON music related or not? How many people know what you play...could the music stores be involved here, would they give out info on clients purchases? otherwise how would people know and ultimately break in for the gear only..... We think its my wifes Swarovski collection that triggered them, it can be seen from outside. Otherwise we can not think of anyone else but the windowcleaner, because for the rest its only friends and fammily that know Music shops, not very likely, because i mostly bought the stuff used trough online adds. Internet relations? not likely because i try mostly to be anonominous online because of my daytime job. Next to the music stuff and Swarovski collection they took some electronics like my TV, appletv module, printer and our bikes (which are quite expensive on themselves) its obvious they had some real transportation But luckilly nothing that cant be replace, like my wifes fammily jewles that where in the safe our inreplacable things from our doughter that died way to young. As many said, we realise its only material, and it can be replaced..
Back to the topic. Are you considering pa4x instead of T5??
No, absolutely not, i loved my T5-76, thats the only piece of gear i certainly know i am going to need to replace. And for the rest, i will buy an 88 board and a probably a novation Zero SL mkii. I will need an audio interface or mixer for the mac and some speakers and a new headset and new stands and a new MFC10 and other peddals and cables. If i get enough insurance money, for all of this, i will be happy Dont know however if i ever will rebuild my modules collection in which i invested in the last 2 years. They where incredibly fun to play with but nothing i can not do with the VSTs. As said, the only real inreplacable part of my setup was probably the T5, such a jewel. probably going to pick it up over the weekend, i know where to get a sweet deal 3500 Euro with 1k memmory and 2 expansion packs and a USB smartdrive loaded with songs, styles and sounds..
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#408037 - 09/08/15 11:05 PM
Re: Devastated
[Re: bruno123]
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Bachus you sound like a strong individual, be ready to do battle with the insurance people, they can be ruthless. The invasion of your home is unforgivable.
Years back I was tired so I left my equipment in my. The car was on the driveway eight feet from my home. I brought my guitar into the house. The next morning the car was gone. It took me a little while to believe what had happened. I walked part of the driveway and still couldn’t believe. When I accepted what had happened I was angry. I was angry because of my wife’s safety, my home was invaded and it was going to take a while before I felt secure again.
The insurance people told me that I was not covered; they were wrong. Any personal items within ten feet of my home my equipment were covered. They took advantage of every angle including of age of the instruments. And if I didn’t have a sales slip they would not cover the item.
I say this tongue-in-cheek, I played their game and got enough money to cover the replacement of all my stuff.
John C.
Reading up on insurance pollicies, and specific instrument insurances, i found out the in the Netehrlands you instruments are not insured when in a car between 22.00 and 08.0 unless the car is parked in a locked down area like a garagebox or protected parking. Currently i think i am happy with where the insurance is going, i negotiated that i will get the vlue for the modules and components that it will cost me to replace them, same goes for the other electronics and my wifes swarovsky collection. and i will get €5000 for my 2 actuall instruments the T5 and K88 for which i payed a total of €6000 in the end i will certainly sign up for that... But no new T5 over the weekend, my wife decided that we need a vacation and we will visit a resort in Turkey for a week.. enjoying the sun and recovering from our bad luck, its what we call last minute bookings.. So the T5 will have to wayt... Luckilly i found a nice thing to do, been creating mainstage setups yesterday evening, Mainstage 3 is really nice for playing VST instruments from a keyboard... and it has touchcontroll from the ipad..
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#408077 - 09/09/15 05:33 PM
Re: Devastated
[Re: Bachus]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Interestingly, I know of very few musicians that have a separate insurance policy on their gear. Since I began playing I decided that the equipment was worth insuring and went about shopping for a great policy. My policy, which is provided by Erie Insurance Exchange, covers all of my gear against ALL HAZARDS! It's covered while transporting in my van, it's covered while I'm performing, it's covered when stored at home in my office, or even when it's in my van. It's covered against fire, theft, flood, and even negligence if some drunk happens to dump a pitcher of beer over the keyboard or amp. And, it is covered for full replacement value - no depreciation. And, I insure everything from the keyboard stand to the mic and everything in between. The cost is an outrageous $76 per year - yep, that's it. Some folks are probably skeptical about this, however, I did have an occasion to make a claim several years ago when my van was broadsided on I-95 near the Baltimore Beltway when some idiot talking on his cell decided he was in the wrong lane to make the exit. He slammed my full-size Ford Van at 65 MPH, I spun out and went over an embankment and slammed into some rip-rap boulders 50 feet off the roadway. He hit me right behind the sliding door, right where the keyboard was sitting. My beloved PSR-5700 was toast, but I was, fortunately, not injured. My van was totaled. My van and all the gear was towed to a repair facility close to home that was owned by a friend of mine. As we were transferring my gear into my wife's car, I got a sick feeling when I picked up the keyboard case. I called the insurance agent, they arrived 30 minutes later, took some photos, and said "Don't worry, your covered." I was on the phone an hour later and called Washington Music, they overnighted me a brand new 5700 and the insurance company picked up the entire tab. This should be food for thought for those of you that DO NOT carry a separate policy on your gear. Make a few telephone calls - you will find good coverage at a premium you can afford. Realistically, you cannot afford to be without it. All the best, Gary
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PSR-S950, TC Helicon Harmony-M, Digitech VR, Samson Q7, Sennheiser E855, Custom Console, and lots of other silly stuff!
K+E=W (Knowledge Plus Experience = Wisdom.)
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#408085 - 09/09/15 10:57 PM
Re: Devastated
[Re: travlin'easy]
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
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Interestingly, I know of very few musicians that have a separate insurance policy on their gear. Since I began playing I decided that the equipment was worth insuring and went about shopping for a great policy. My policy, which is provided by Erie Insurance Exchange, covers all of my gear against ALL HAZARDS! It's covered while transporting in my van, it's covered while I'm performing, it's covered when stored at home in my office, or even when it's in my van. It's covered against fire, theft, flood, and even negligence if some drunk happens to dump a pitcher of beer over the keyboard or amp. And, it is covered for full replacement value - no depreciation. And, I insure everything from the keyboard stand to the mic and everything in between. The cost is an outrageous $76 per year - yep, that's it. Some folks are probably skeptical about this, however, I did have an occasion to make a claim several years ago when my van was broadsided on I-95 near the Baltimore Beltway when some idiot talking on his cell decided he was in the wrong lane to make the exit. He slammed my full-size Ford Van at 65 MPH, I spun out and went over an embankment and slammed into some rip-rap boulders 50 feet off the roadway. He hit me right behind the sliding door, right where the keyboard was sitting. My beloved PSR-5700 was toast, but I was, fortunately, not injured. My van was totaled. My van and all the gear was towed to a repair facility close to home that was owned by a friend of mine. As we were transferring my gear into my wife's car, I got a sick feeling when I picked up the keyboard case. I called the insurance agent, they arrived 30 minutes later, took some photos, and said "Don't worry, your covered." I was on the phone an hour later and called Washington Music, they overnighted me a brand new 5700 and the insurance company picked up the entire tab. This should be food for thought for those of you that DO NOT carry a separate policy on your gear. Make a few telephone calls - you will find good coverage at a premium you can afford. Realistically, you cannot afford to be without it. All the best, Gary Since i never play out, i was under the impression that it was all covered by my home insurance.... in the end i was almost right, loosing about €1000 on the equipment but getting more on the bikes and electronics then expected, everything less then 5 years old gets newprice vallue ... giving me a total of over €29k which offcourse is a huge sum... my wifes Swarovski collection was well worth over $12k, so i am pretty much convinced the bikes and instruments where colleteral damaga, and it where her shinies that attracted the burglars. I made some inquiries about instrument insurance and thats about 3% of the instruments new price a year... well worth it for gigging musicians, but not so much for homeplayers or studios there are cheaper ways to get everything covered, i could have expanded my home insurance with more valluables or instruments if i specify them as vauluables and thats about .75% with my current home insurance..
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