Having called sick from work, or just not being able to go today, and no keyboard around, i had to much time at my hands and this is what i ended up doing. Comparing the Pa4x to the T5..
PA4x vs TYROS5 differences

-Weight 16,3 vs 16kg Tyros is slightly lighter ….. +1T
-touchscreen vs non touch ….. +1K
-Graphics Tyros screen looks much much better …..+1T
-Soundsource EDS with DNC vs AWM2 with SA1 (T5 also has SA2 and Ensemble)….. +2T
-Virtuall drawbar organ vs Organworld….. +1T
-piano moddeling with string resonance and damper resonance on Korg only +1K
-5,1 GB PCM samples vs 760 MB….. +1K
-400 Mb vs 2GB max user samples ….. +1T
-10 effects vs 9+3 effects (also T5 has many more effects types) ….. +1T
-Max audio mastering engine only on Korg …..+1K
-Guitar mode 2 vs Megavoices(guitar mode 2 is playable, Mega voices are versatile)Draw
-Styleformats (Yamaha has Session, freeplay and audio styles)….. +1T
-Korg has more buttons like for bass inversion and tempo lock…. +1K
-Korg has Chord sequencer….. +1K
-Duall player vs single player ….. +1K
-Songbook vs Music finder ….. +1K
-Korg has ribbon, more sliders and half damper pedal ….. +1K
-Deep edditabillity vs basic edditing ….. +1K
-TC Helicon Vocalist vs VH2 ….. +1K

So far its PA4x=10 vs Tyros5=7 (not that these numbers mean anything)


so anyone else has some other differences that can be added to the list?

My vote is TYROS 5

It’s always good to keep busy.

Yamaha Arrangers still use AWM1 (Like the Electones) only the Workstations use AWM2.
The main articulations on the SA2 voices relate to the attack and decay phases (There are also other effects that are incorporated, but not directly unique to SA2) whereas SA1 concentrated on the Attack phase. (This is the reason you only have 2 Art buttons)

The Korg DNC has 3 articulation controls and is much more flexible than the T5 Art buttons. (The SA/SA2 has the advantage that everything is programmed into the voices, (Something I hate on a keyboard as it takes much longer to edit) whereas the DNC effects allow you to do more your own thing, (My preference) and it is purely personal choice as to which you prefer)

Although the Korg is a little heavier, it is more substantially built than the Yamaha which depending on its use may make a difference. (As arrangers are designed for the home hobby market super strong is of little relevance due to the fact that home players usually upgrade almost as much as they change their socks, compared to pro users who tend to keep their equipment for centuries)

The T5 ensemble section is good, however apart from the Classic and theatre organ, the rest of organ world is limited, having little in common with the instruments that they are supposed to emulate. (If you particularly want Hammond emulation then the Korg wins hands down)

In the end though, there is more to an arranger than just sounds and features, and the only way to see which suits you is to actually play them live.

Hopefully the above will give you something else to ponder over.

Bill

I choose Korg, but when I bought the PA3x a few years ago I paid only 2600 Euro. Now the PA4X is about 3500 Euro that's 900 Euro more.

Finally a worthy comparison between two great TOTL arrangers. Nice unbiased comparison list so far. Comes down to what fits your needs better. Even comparable price wise, but Korg does have two years more of research and development added to the PA4X.

Marcus

Korg has way more assignable sliders and knobs.
The vocal harmonizer is miles better than Yamaha.
The drum kits, with the exception of audio ones, are much more realistic.
I find the gimmicks on many of the Yamaha guitar sounds put stuff in at the wrong times. I prefer to do it myself.
Korg has the EC5 multi foot control which is light in weight, inexpensive and totally programmable. Yamaha's only option is the very expensive, very heavy, MFC10. The Tyros does have 3 programmable foot pedals, but the PSRs only 2.
I of course have not played a PA4X, but the 3X, although similar in weight to Tyros, is a much more manageable size, and is far easier to lift off the stand, put in bag and transport.
I would not use the organ world and ensemble sections, although I can see where many might. I want to sound like a small combo, not an orchestra or movie score, or most of all a big organ.
There are positives on each side I'm sure we're overlooking, but at least for me it's an easy choice. And isn't it wonderful we have so many great choices!!

Nice summery Bachus.

Thing is we still don't know much about new pa4x. I don't even know what a hell is Korg doing with this launch. Still no videos, not enough audios demos, not enough info about specs. Many questions but no answers. Really bad launch by Korg. Or is still just a teaser, we will see.

I think they are still teasing to a degree. At least it didn't start six months ago. I truly hope they don't release it before most of the bugs are found and corrected.

Yamaha has made some crazy introductions as well, but ultimate made great demo videos. Previous Tyros models had puzzle pieces slowly revealed up to the launch. Controversial leaked videos, and the debacle of the YEM and Voice Creator with the Tyros 5, however corrected over time.

The Korg PA4X has a great feature list and specs. Sure to be a winner. Retailers and users will eventually produce demos, but some real good Korg video demos would be nice, especially for those interested in purchasing.

Marcus

So Don you like Tyros 5...lol