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#408600 - 09/19/15 06:40 PM
Re: Are DJ's Taking over Bands.....?
[Re: Dnj]
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Senior Member
Registered: 03/28/02
Posts: 2814
Loc: Xingyi, Guizhou (China)
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I understand your point of view, Russ. Alas, were DJs losing jobs to arranger players this discussion would be one of a totally different nature. Also, it doesn't take away the fact that quite a few of the "pro-arranger" players resort to Dj-ing as well. Sorry, but to me it's just another case of someone thinking he's better than the other. I can't help but remembering what many arranger players here think of piano players.
In Europe DJs that play at weddings and such have no problem keeping everyone on the dance floor. They play music that caters to all ages: waltzes, polkas, fox-trots, musette, evergreens, standards, disco, rock, etc.
Of course, my view on this doesn't matter like anything else I say on this forum.
Taike
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#408603 - 09/19/15 06:59 PM
Re: Are DJ's Taking over Bands.....?
[Re: Taike]
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Senior Member
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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Taike, I'm saying that there is a market for live music, but it's different now than even a few years before.
In my early years, all jobs were proms, High School sock hops and Fraternity parties. They're all gone now, done mostly by DJ's.
My market rarely calls for an arranger. It's a classical guitar for a dinner, or a piano. B-3 jobs are there for the Jimmy Smith hardliners. Jobs up to 12 pieces are regular occurrences. Philharmonic and Jazz arts council gigs pop up as often as I'd like. Recording is every Sunday (2:30 thru Monday-6:00 PM-straight through).
The point is, you can work IF you are versatile and know lots of styles and material. In a typical month, I do all jobs mentioned here on guitar (classical, jazz, R&B)bass (bass guitar and upright), piano, organ, synths, vocals, percussion, vibes, mandolin...anything with strings or keys on it. I even worked on a Bluegrass album for a friend who has a Grammy recently. Have a lot of instruments...will travel is my motto.
DJ's don't hurt me at all. I don't want or need the kind of jobs they do, and there's plenty of the jobs I get to turn 1/2 of them down. Clients tell me they can't find enough entertainers at the high end. I've worked for some of my big corporate/industrial/government clients for over 40 years. I think, sometimes, I'm hired for sentimental reasons, instead of talent. On these jobs, I really don't have much competition.
On other thing: If the band or venue is solid, I never ask or negotiate price. Things seem to work out on that end. If the pay is light, I tell them next time that the scale is below my normal rate and they generally up the bread.
Russ
Edited by captain Russ (09/19/15 07:16 PM)
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#408606 - 09/19/15 07:07 PM
Re: Are DJ's Taking over Bands.....?
[Re: Dnj]
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Taike, I, for one, have always valued your opinion. Keep in mind that things are a bit different in various regions of the globe, and not everything is the same when it comes to entertainers. My comments pertained to DJs in my specific region - not Europe, Asia, Latin America, etc..., and I stated that in my posts. I have never seen a DJ while I was in Europe, the UK, the Mediterranean area, South Africa, North Africa or Scandinavia, therefore, I have no practical knowledge to relate this. As for piano players, I have nothing but great respect for those that have the skill to play that instrument, which I stated in an above post. I wish I had that skill as well, but alas, I'm just a lowly entertainer that uses an arranger keyboard. All the best, Gary
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