#40879 - 03/15/0402:43 PMRe: KN2400 and KN2600 compatibility
Gunnar Jonny
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Hex codes can be really colourfull as well:
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#40880 - 03/15/0402:44 PMRe: KN2400 and KN2600 compatibility
lahawk
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Are you saying that the 7000 will play all KN series keyboard songs, other than the 2400, and 2600?
I just assumed, since we can save songs on the 2000, 3000, 5000, and 6000,etc. and play them on the 7000, that this would also apply to the 2400 and 2600.
the KN7000 will load normal data from the KN2000, 3000, 5000, 1600, 1400, 6000 and 6500 (bar 5000 custom etc). The rest will need one form or another of special treatment, which is how I made the new 2600 presets available for KN7000 owners on www.technicskn7000.com
#40882 - 03/15/0405:29 PMRe: KN2400 and KN2600 compatibility
lahawk
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I'm a little stunned that the 7000 cannot play songs recorded and saved on the 2400, or 2600. Especially since all 3 are related
The 7000 can play all of the above mentioned KN Boards, just not the newest. Is that the reason?...because the 2400 and 2600 is newer than the 7000, thus the technology is more advanced in the 2400 and 2600?
well, as I've already explained since the situation was precisely the same for the top keyboards before the KN7000, what you see is the entirely the norm and to be expected if you have a knowledge of the history of the keyboards.
If you release a product a year after another product it will have a new feature or two - nothing to do with more technologically advanced which would be a rather wild exaggeration, just a different balance of features to target a different market, and thus not particularly odd or out of the ordinary at all. If you load a file from the new into the previous there will be the occasion where you get anomalies because of different samples or different controllers. So all you will achieve is get some peculiarly unrealistic sounds and sub-standard styles with bits missing that the designer did not intend, and could not envisage due to the inability to see into the future, which is exactly the case on some 2600 styles loaded straight into the 7000 just as in previous generations of keyboard the situation has been precisely the same. In the case of the styles on www.technicskn7000.com for the 7000 these anomalies have been taken care of by some clever editing beyond the capabilities of most owners, so it's all really quite unremarkable if you appreciate the facts and the history
#40886 - 03/16/0404:20 AMRe: KN2400 and KN2600 compatibility
Bill Norrie
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I suppose it's a bit like trying to run a PC program on a machine with Windows 98, when the program was specifically written to execute on Windows XP, taking advantage of the new technology.
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And I guess in addition to you, Alec, and those folk at Technics/Note some equally clever folk at EMC Technics Works Pro in Germany had worked that out as well... Although they seem to have stopped at KN5000 and probably concentrated on Yamaha equipment. I don't think I'll fiddle around though - I could easily bxxxxr everything up...chuckle. Rog p.s. thanks for explaining
that's a quite reasonable analogy Willum, as you put it specifically for writing a program. As long as people don't get the impression that the 2600 is XP to the 7000s 98 overall which would be wildly inaccurate
The EMC case is because of the compression introduced on the 6000, and that is why the conversions are stuck at 5000 format. When the 6000 came out I gave Klauss information to enable reverse engineering the 6000 compression, but this was a very difficult job. Perhaps with the demise of Technics instruments any possible contractual reasons may allow a rethink, we shall have to see whether it's worth his while now.