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#409171 - 10/02/15 07:08 AM GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! !
mirza Offline
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Gotta love them. Gives you a feel how to be a true American.
Yet, another shooting and not the last one. Thanks "God" for guns. Too bad it wasn't another Islamic idiot.Would have been much better for our news stations to spread fear. And much easier. And we still think more guns is a solution to all this madness. But who cares?? Only the once close to the victims.

News stations became like Hollywood. Spread fear and propaganda, that is the way. Let's hate each other for so many stupid reasons as who's god is bigger asshole or more sadistic. Or whose skin color is better looking or wether we piss up wind or down wind. Lately I think we all do the first one , well because of how we were brought up or our religious beliefs. At least it easy to get guns so we can kill each other easier.
Thank God for guns.
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#409195 - 10/02/15 03:40 PM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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Guns equal votes...for the Republicans.

Just another day in Paradise!
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#409244 - 10/04/15 01:37 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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#409602 - 10/14/15 05:21 PM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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If guns kill people, how does anyone get out of a gun show alive? Spoons make me fat! I want spoons to be illegal. Oh ban food too cause it makes me fat. No more cars they kill people too. What about planes, trains and cruise ships.
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#409608 - 10/14/15 07:16 PM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: brickboo]
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http://heedinggodscall.org/content/pfctoolkit-10

Gun lovers always come up with dumb things in order to justify their need. Nothing new there.

But, hey, keep on shooting each other for it seems like you hate each other anyway. Just don't put the blame on illegals or Muslims.
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#409610 - 10/14/15 08:44 PM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: brickboo]
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Originally Posted By: brickboo
If guns kill people, how does anyone get out of a gun show alive? Spoons make me fat! I want spoons to be illegal. Oh ban food too cause it makes me fat. No more cars they kill people too. What about planes, trains and cruise ships.


It is unstable people with guns that kill people. Simply allow a background check to prove you aren't unstable. But for some reason the NRA opposes that. How stupid. Or maybe they won't pass the check do you think? I am a gun owner myself. But I would have no problem having a background check.

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#409613 - 10/15/15 12:22 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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#409661 - 10/16/15 01:44 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: brickboo]
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Originally Posted By: brickboo
If guns kill people, how does anyone get out of a gun show alive? Spoons make me fat! I want spoons to be illegal. Oh ban food too cause it makes me fat. No more cars they kill people too. What about planes, trains and cruise ships.


Don't be stupid, that makes no sense. I am a gun owner and like to shoot targets but I will gladly give up my guns to keep them out of the hands of the unstable. No one kills people with food or cars intentionally but they do with guns. This is why the USA has one of the highest gun death statistics of any country in the world. Or do you think that is simply coincidental? I don't think so. The big problem with the USA is that there are are so many guns here now it would take years to diminish the numbers. But they need to start at some time. Why do you need to own guns? If they start banning guns now in 100 years they will be eliminated. Think about your children's children. Or are you just more concerned about yourself?

Don't you know the second amendment can be changed? That is why it is called an amendment wink

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#409662 - 10/16/15 03:34 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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People hold onto stupid second amendment like it was always there. Like it was a god's gift and not a man made. I understand at the time it was made it was for shure needed and a must. And it's been how many years since than and people still think the same. It just shows how stupid we are as humans and how little we have learned.
Unfortunately I don't think it will ever change. Media has mastered an illusion of fear.It's almost too easy to control the masses.
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#409665 - 10/16/15 06:12 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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Not directly related but this also makes me sick on the stomach.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6124...he-Lion-outrage

But going back to the guns, it's not so much the guns themselves as it is the 'gun culture' in this country, especially in the South. Here in Georgia, it's about as ridiculous as you can get; it's okay to bring guns into bars (what could go wrong there?) and even churches. All this BS about '2nd Amendment rights' is no more than a smokescreen and everybody knows it. "They're coming to take away you guns" becomes the battle cry every time any semblance of a suggestion for common sense gun control comes up. I am just amazed at the political clout of the NRA and the naivete' of the American public. It's as ridiculous as not being able to be elected president unless you can prove you're a devout Christian (preferably Protestant). Why oh why do ideas and attitudes like this continue to persist among otherwise normal-thinking people. At what point in the future will common sense finally prevail? Probably long after I'm dead and gone.

chas
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#409677 - 10/16/15 08:08 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: cgiles]
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I'm like Nigel...a target shooter. I'm from the South, and I inherited lots of guns from my family, and added to the collection. Since selling my farm in 2000, I haven't shot a gun once and don't plan to.

I'd gladly give my collection up with no compensation expected if there were a way to assure that a total effort to reduce the number of guns and the crooks would work. Most of my pieces...over 100, are single shot or hand-made...not ideal for defense. Intentionally, a few are.

There have been two times in my life when I needed a gun for protection, and, without them, either my mother or I or both would have been seriously hurt. I was seriously injured by a
drug addict 7 years ago at my warehouse, by a fellow I had befriended, and the only thing that saved me was a pistol I keep in the office.

I was 6 in Fairbanks, Alaska when a guy, high on drugs tried to break into our home. My dad was in the military, on alert at Ladd AFB. My mom was flat on her back; restricted to bed at 8 months pregnant. I was the oldest of three children. After several hours of attempts at different windows, the guy finally broke the one into the kitchen. I had brandished my little 410/22 over and under, but that didn't seem to make any impression. There had been several rapes and robberies in the area, which was fairly desolate. There was three feet of snow on the ground and no phones.

When the guy advanced, I shot him in the knee with the 410 shotgun barrel. When he got up and continued his aggressive movements, I shot him in the other knee. I watched over him for three hours until the sun came up and then sent my younger brother to get our neighbor.

I was required to see a psychiatrist at the base. When asked if I had any regrets, I said I wish I had hurt him worse. If he had gotten up again, I would have shot him with both a slug round and the 22. I had used # 8 (bird) shot to stop him previously.

The psychiatrist thought I was fine. I saw the guy many times, limping around downtown Fairbanks, snarling at me.

But, guess what? He never bothered us again, and finally was caught and convicted committing a rape and robbery.

No 6 year old should have to go thru that kind of thing.

I hope I NEVER have to hurt anyone again, but if I were in a similar circumstance, I certainly would.

That said, even though I'm a southerner, I agree with Chas on this issue. That's probably because he's bigger than I am!


Russ


Edited by captain Russ (10/16/15 08:32 AM)

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#409706 - 10/16/15 04:43 PM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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I don't even own a gun. I don't see why they should take my neighbor's gun because some crazy person shot people 1000 miles away. If my neighbor would have been there he would have shot the evil doer. I am for not selling a gun to an idiot, and I agree that background checks should be used. I don't want any loonies walking around with guns either. It's not the gun, It the ASSHOLES holding the gun.
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#409718 - 10/17/15 12:58 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: brickboo]
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Originally Posted By: brickboo
I don't even own a gun. I don't see why they should take my neighbor's gun because some crazy person shot people 1000 miles away. If my neighbor would have been there he would have shot the evil doer. I am for not selling a gun to an idiot, and I agree that background checks should be used. I don't want any loonies walking around with guns either. It's not the gun, It the ASSHOLES holding the gun.


Exactly Boo, it is those assholes that need to be prevented from obtaining guns. But the NRA don't even want to make that concession and that is the problem. Your neighbor with a gun would probably pass that check. If he didn't well so be it.

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#409721 - 10/17/15 01:30 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: captain Russ]
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Only once I have had to threaten with a gun. 20 years ago there was a knock at our front door and it was a woman saying she had been raped and that 3 men had her car. She got away by telling them she needed to go to the bathroom and was let out of the car outside of our place. I rang 911 and reported it. A few minutes later there was a knock at my door and it wasn't the police. It was the 3 men who she accused of rape. I just tapped the barrel of my 9MM Beretta on the frosted glass on the front door and told them to leave or I would shoot. They left. The 9MM was actually broken at the time and wouldn't have actually worked, but they left and were stopped a couple of minutes later by the police. But I could have probably tapped anything metal on the glass and threatened to shoot and they would still have gone away.

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#409771 - 10/17/15 10:32 PM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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...and yet the insanity plea is the first thing they come up with.
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#409780 - 10/18/15 07:01 AM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: captain Russ]
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Captain Russ, that is quite a story. To go through something like that is as bad as it gets at any age. Especially as a young kid. The reason I hate guns is I from Bosnia and trough war some days in a day you see a lifetime of bad stuff.

Taike, from what I usually see on tv or internet those people with guns that you mentioned that go to bars or a churches with their guns and call their second amendment is usually the only amendment they heard of .
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#409814 - 10/18/15 09:50 PM Re: GUNS,GUNS, GUNS!!!!!!! THANK GOD FOR GUNS! ! [Re: mirza]
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All this gun-related violence has nothing to do with illegals yet illegals get blamed for everything that's wrong with the US. The reality is that this is American on American violence. Be glad you're living in Canada, Mirza.

Having a gun in the house makes one feel safer? How so? Does one, upon hearing the door bell, open the door carrying a cocked gun? Also, even a background check doesn't guarantee anything.

Although not recent, it should give you a good idea of what's wrong with having a gun in the house:
http://nyagv.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Accidental-Shootings-NYAGV.pdf
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