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#410502 - 10/30/15 04:59 PM Re: Which piano sample is this? [Re: ]
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I knew it! Guess my hearing isn't shot to Hell as my wife says. wink

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#410504 - 10/30/15 05:26 PM Re: Which piano sample is this? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
Originally Posted By: Bachus
Just a wild guess, i think its a steinway, sampled by Roland...
The concert Grand of the SRX-02 expansion board?


Thanks for your guess. Not too far away regarding release date (although the SRX-02 wasn't a Steinway, it has this very mellow, warm sound often criticized by those who want bright Steinway sound, it is said to be a Bösendorfer. SRX 11 is a Steinway).
I'll wait a few more hours before I release the result.

P.S.: Still regard the SRX 02 as one of my favourite Roland pianos, maybe no.1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w47GmjbW1so




Interesting! How does the SuperNatural piano in your Integra-7 stack up? Is it inferior to your ears?
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#410541 - 10/31/15 08:32 AM Re: Which piano sample is this? [Re: Mikem]
rosetree
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Just a note: I posted the solution to the riddle about 3 posts upwards.

Originally Posted By: Mikem
Interesting! How does the SuperNatural piano in your Integra-7 stack up? Is it inferior to your ears?


If you ask me in terms of how fascinated I am about its real feeling, yes, the SRX-02 outclasses the SN-A piano from my viewpoint. I remember when I first got a physical SRX-02 board for my SonicCell, I sat in front of my controller keyboard and had the feeling of playing a large, real, wooden grand piano. Never had this feeling with any other piano sound yet. It incorporates all those warm frequencies of the wooden resonance of the piano strings, fascinating.
BUT: This is when I play it through headphones - via speakers I've often had problems getting the same sound out, it tends to sound too mellow, in our band I finally had to eliminate the low velocity layer and use the 'rock' type of piano as only the forte part was cutting through the mix. There was another problem: the 4 velocity layers were so different that you couldn't go from piano to forte smoothly enough, and some notes would stick out as fortissimo, while others were very mellow.
In that respect, the SRX 11 (taken from a Steinway) was more usable on stage due to its brilliant part - but it doesn't have the great wooden depth. The SN-A piano seems to be somehow derived from the SRX 11 with improved mid keys, which sounded a bit thin in the SRX 11 (sometimes called "megaphone sound" in some forums). So the SN-A is the best playable one for the stage, and it's quite realistic, too, but again, the fascinating wooden resonance just isn't there.


Edited by rosetree (10/31/15 08:37 AM)

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#410583 - 10/31/15 04:34 PM Re: Which piano sample is this? [Re: ]
rosetree
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See, it would be great if Roland took on this SRX 02 sample and advanced it into a SN-A piano, smoothing out the timbre jumps from layer to layer, it would be a truly great classical piano, but this is the kind of targeted advancement Roland has refused to make for the past couple of years. Let's hope they will get more consistent again.

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