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#410917 - 11/06/15 09:59 AM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: ]
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For me, on line demos are too hard to discern differences. Besides, voices are not, for me, the sole choice.

If I were choosing between the PA 4X and whatever Tyros existed at the time, these are some of the things I would look at:

Size/portability. The PA 4X ,although a bit heavier, doesn't appear to be any bigger than my S970 if I'm reading the spec's correctly.

Controls: ability to manipulate voices/styles on the fly.

On board memory

Ability to set up and organize songs for gigs..ability to find those special styles and voices for songs.

How rich are the choices to upgrade voices and styles? How much and what type of support exists.

Bang for the $$$$ of course.

These are a few of the criteria I would look at.
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#410918 - 11/06/15 10:02 AM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: Mikem]
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let's not forget you can also edit the sounds to whatever you need.

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#410921 - 11/06/15 10:11 AM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: Mikem]
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And one of the most important things for live playing and sounding alive.
DRUMS: Yamaha 1- Korg 10
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#410923 - 11/06/15 10:21 AM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: mirza]
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Originally Posted By: mirza
And one of the most important things for live playing and sounding alive.
DRUMS: Yamaha 1- Korg 10


good thing we all have choices,......not everyone is concerned with the same things & needs,.....for me I'm happy with the Yamaha Drums, Styles, Sounds, (especially using some of the newer S970 styles,)
and S950 key-feel, size, & weight for gigging as it's set up for MY needs on stage. keys Although a large Tilt Up Display like the Korg Pa4x would be nice on future S- models. wink

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#410928 - 11/06/15 11:27 AM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: Dnj]
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: mirza
And one of the most important things for live playing and sounding alive.
DRUMS: Yamaha 1- Korg 10


good thing we all have choices,......not everyone is concerned with the same things & needs,.....for me I'm happy with the Yamaha Drums, Styles, Sounds, (especially using some of the newer S970 styles,)
and S950 key-feel, size, & weight for gigging as it's set up for MY needs on stage. keys Although a large Tilt Up Display like the Korg Pa4x would be nice on future S- models. wink




From what you've been saying lately, it seems that the S950 is a perfect fit for you. And who can blame you? It's a very nice keyboard! Wish I had one, too!
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#410929 - 11/06/15 11:40 AM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
Assigning 0 to 5 points for the realism of the first sounds, my score would be:

Tyros 5 / PA-4X
Piano: 3 / 5
Big Strings: 3 / 1,5 frown
Full Pipe Organ: 5 / 4,5
Solo Violin: 3,5 / 5
Nylon Guitar: 5 / 5




I've seen the video 2 or 3 times already, and I took notes. Judging only this particular video, I prefer the Korg for;

*Piano *Strings *Violin *Blues Style *Balad Style


I prefer the Tyros for;

*Pipe Organ *Guitar *Bossa Style *Rock Cha Cha Cha Style


It also depends what style variations he used. And for the WoodWinds (Flute, Clarinet and Sax), I think I may prefer the Korg.

I'm kins of shocked, because in the past, I was never crazy about Korg's solo instrument sounds, compared to the earlier Tyros models. Plus, the Korg is less expensive.

Why can't $10,000 just fall from the sky so I can get both? smile
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#410932 - 11/06/15 12:00 PM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: Mikem]
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Originally Posted By: Mikem
Originally Posted By: rosetree
Assigning 0 to 5 points for the realism of the first sounds, my score would be:

Tyros 5 / PA-4X
Piano: 3 / 5
Big Strings: 3 / 1,5 frown
Full Pipe Organ: 5 / 4,5
Solo Violin: 3,5 / 5
Nylon Guitar: 5 / 5




I've seen the video 2 or 3 times already, and I took notes. Judging only this particular video, I prefer the Korg for;

*Piano *Strings *Violin *Blues Style *Balad Style


I prefer the Tyros for;

*Pipe Organ *Guitar *Bossa Style *Rock Cha Cha Cha Style


It also depends what style variations he used. And for the WoodWinds (Flute, Clarinet and Sax), I think I may prefer the Korg.

I'm kins of shocked, because in the past, I was never crazy about Korg's solo instrument sounds, compared to the earlier Tyros models. Plus, the Korg is less expensive.

Why can't $10,000 just fall from the sky so I can get both? smile


Someone has to win the lottery, and you have just as much chance as anyone else. (Assuming you play it of course)

Fingers crossed

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#410933 - 11/06/15 12:01 PM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: Dnj]
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Registered: 07/21/05
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: mirza
And one of the most important things for live playing and sounding alive.
DRUMS: Yamaha 1- Korg 10


good thing we all have choices,......not everyone is concerned with the same things & needs,.....for me I'm happy with the Yamaha Drums, Styles, Sounds, (especially using some of the newer S970 styles,)
and S950 key-feel, size, & weight for gigging as it's set up for MY needs on stage. keys Although a large Tilt Up Display like the Korg Pa4x would be nice on future S- models. wink


As far as choice and quality goes we have never had it so good, plus everybody’s criteria is different. I am regularly out listening to live bands etc. (Real instruments, real players) and this is what I use as my criteria, which for me rules out the T5, as apart from some of the new voices it just lacks the realism of a live performance. (The PA4x sounds more live then the T5 and the apart from the new voice sections, the T4 also sounds more realistic than the T5)

Each to his own

Bill
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#410935 - 11/06/15 12:28 PM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: ]
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Registered: 03/02/06
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Originally Posted By: rosetree
Assigning 0 to 5 points for the realism of the first sounds, my score would be:

Tyros 5 / PA-4X
Piano: 3 / 5
Big Strings: 3 / 1,5 frown
Full Pipe Organ: 5 / 4,5
Solo Violin: 3,5 / 5
Nylon Guitar: 5 / 5


I agree mostly with you... tough,

when it comes to strings on the Tyros 5, having the ensemble feature puts it 3 steps higher..

And there are even more impressive pipe organs in T5

The jazz violin on T5 has a jazzy sound to it, i prefer the celtic violin... having no classic SA2 violin is a minus indeed



However, you did not assign notes to the styles... because thats where i tought the PA4x shines compared to the standard Tyros styles (modding them however can add the desired realism)
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#410937 - 11/06/15 12:35 PM Re: New Tyros 5 vs. Korg Pa4X Demo!!! [Re: abacus]
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Registered: 08/12/14
Posts: 917
Loc: Quebec, Canada
Originally Posted By: abacus
Originally Posted By: Mikem
Originally Posted By: rosetree
Assigning 0 to 5 points for the realism of the first sounds, my score would be:

Tyros 5 / PA-4X
Piano: 3 / 5
Big Strings: 3 / 1,5 frown
Full Pipe Organ: 5 / 4,5
Solo Violin: 3,5 / 5
Nylon Guitar: 5 / 5




I've seen the video 2 or 3 times already, and I took notes. Judging only this particular video, I prefer the Korg for;

*Piano *Strings *Violin *Blues Style *Balad Style


I prefer the Tyros for;

*Pipe Organ *Guitar *Bossa Style *Rock Cha Cha Cha Style


It also depends what style variations he used. And for the WoodWinds (Flute, Clarinet and Sax), I think I may prefer the Korg.

I'm kins of shocked, because in the past, I was never crazy about Korg's solo instrument sounds, compared to the earlier Tyros models. Plus, the Korg is less expensive.

Why can't $10,000 just fall from the sky so I can get both? smile


Someone has to win the lottery, and you have just as much chance as anyone else. (Assuming you play it of course)

Fingers crossed

Bill




Thanks for your well-wishes, but I don't gamble. smile
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