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#411778 - 11/21/15 04:53 AM
Re: PA4X bug list
[Re: DonM]
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
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I believe Ketron and General Music had the excuse of being very small companies, where the staff, engineers, designers, are sometimes the same person, so to get a product out, there are a few things that probably get missed. But a company like Korg, should never have the same amount of issues when first launched, especially a product that is another version of an existing product. But that all said, the only way to truely find out whats wrong is to get it into the hands of the users, because everyone uses them differently and will find out things that others would never.
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#411787 - 11/21/15 08:20 AM
Re: PA4X bug list
[Re: frankieve]
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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I believe Ketron and General Music had the excuse of being very small companies, where the staff, engineers, designers, are sometimes the same person, so to get a product out, there are a few things that probably get missed. But a company like Korg, should never have the same amount of issues when first launched, especially a product that is another version of an existing product. But that all said, the only way to truely find out whats wrong is to get it into the hands of the users, because everyone uses them differently and will find out things that others would never. Korg is good about staying on top of things like this. I expect they will have an update soon.
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#412078 - 11/26/15 01:35 PM
Re: PA4X bug list
[Re: Bachus]
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Registered: 04/28/06
Posts: 834
Loc: North Texas, USA
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Yamahas tend to be pretty bug-free, because historically Yamaha has been very conservative about adding new features. Regarding the Tyros 5, a lot of folks griped that the sound creator functionality was moved from the keyboard to a complementary PC software, which wasn't available until a year or so after launch. The only really "new" feature was Ensemble mode. And I haven't used that enough to know if it has any serious bugs.
My experience is that Korg does a much better job addressing bugs/deficiencies than Roland (which just seems to move on to the next model.) For example, when folks rightfully complained about the deletion of the 'Fingered 3' chord recognition mode in the PA900, Korg added it back. Meanwhile, I'm still hanging onto an old Roland E-50, because the style creation work-flow on every subsequent model is buggy and less stable. Perhaps the E-50 is better because it re-used the G-70's operating system, which had already benefitted from 3 major upgrades.
I'm not in the market for another TOTL arranger, but I would give Korg a month or two to sort things out with the Pa4X. And I really hope Roland has invested some time in software quality control with its forthcoming E-A7. I'm looking forward to trying that board!
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#412109 - 11/27/15 07:24 AM
Re: PA4X bug list
[Re: TedS]
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Registered: 11/17/12
Posts: 210
Loc: Canada
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Hbb Yamahas tend to be pretty bug-free, because historically Yamaha has been very conservative about adding new features. Regarding the Tyros 5, a lot of folks griped that the sound creator functionality was moved from the keyboard to a complementary PC software, which wasn't available until a year or so after launch. The only really "new" feature was Ensemble mode. And I haven't used that enough to know if it has any serious bugs.............
"Yamaha has been very conservative about adding new features"? Well, how did Yamaha create the worlds best and most advanced TOTL arrangers...through very conservative measures? The Tyros 5, even after a couple of years is still the top arranger keyboard in the world, and Yamahs presently holds the top spot in the mid-range arrangers and most advanced new features with the latest PSR offerings. Every new arranger, regardless of brand, has minor bugs that are quickly corrected in most cases. All my Tyros 4 Custom a Voices and Drum Kits worked right away with the initial version of the Tyros 5 YEM. Definitely a lapse of judgement from Yamaha removing the onboard voice creator program from the Tyros 4. The issue was corrected with a firmware and YEM update schedule. Voice and drum kit creation is fully functional and actually is easier within the YEM software. The Tyros 5 certainly has more new features beyond just the Ensemble mode. Audio styles, audio multipads, time stretch technology, new SA(2) voices, Organ World, new amp and DSP effects to name a few. The Ensemble feature has always been bug free from the start, and one of the best new features. You get what you pay for. Marcus
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